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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Just give me a reasonable example of someone who can’t get an ID[/quote] “Just how tough are new voter identification requirements in Texas? Apparently tough enough that former U.S. House speaker Jim Wright reportedly was denied a voter ID card on Saturday. "Nobody was ugly to us, but they insisted that they wouldn't give me an ID," Wright, a Democrat who resigned from Congress in 1989, told the Fort Worth Star-Telegram in a story about his experience at a Texas Department of Public Safety office. The 90-year-old told the newspaper he realized last week that he didn't have a valid ID to vote in Tuesday's elections. He said he was refused a voter ID card because his driver's license expired in 2010 and his faculty identification from Texas Christian University in Fort Worth, where he teaches, doesn't meet requirements under the state law enacted in 2011.” https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/3422047[/quote] Maybe don’t wait until day of as your only option? [/quote] I find that the people who say it’s not that hard to get an ID have lead a pretty easy life in that they’ve had steady, good paying jobs, access to transportation, probably haven’t had to move much, have enough money to pay for duplicate documents, access to a easy access to a computer to locate documents, and has bills, leases, property, etc. in their own name. I took a break from my career to stay home with my kids. While I was a SAHM I had to renew my license and the Real ID law had gone into effect. I’m a lawyer and pulling all the required documents was no joke. I was lucky—I had a passport because we are affluent enough to be able to take a vacation outside of the US and I also needed it for work. If I didn’t have the passport I would have needed more documents. I was also lucky that we own a home and both of our names are on the tax bill. Having that document made things easier. Fortunately when we bought our house we shared the responsibility of calling and establishing various utility accounts so some of the utilities were in my name. That helped too. Oh, yes, I had a 401k and investment accounts in my own name so that helped. You may say it’s no big deal getting an ID but actually it is not easy and many states require an ID that actually requires you to produce a monumental amount of documents,the vast majority of which are easier to obtain the more affluence you have. Voting is a Constitutional right. Entering a restaurant or going to a concert isn’t. [/quote] Why do people need to make this so difficult? 1) Birth certificate or passport, 2) social security card or W2 and 3) two current bills or driver's license or mortgage/rent statement. You can order a birth certificate online if you don't have yours (it's not expensive or difficult), everyone should have #2 and #3. Why are people so flustered by this? [/quote] Why are some of you so fact resistant? I bet you pride yourself on being a “straight shooter” and someone with “a lot of common sense,” but you didn’t read [i]any[/i] of the examples the PP so generously offered. [i]Some people do not have access to these documents. [/i] The fascist GOP: “we think only the votes of the voters we want should be accepted. But this is totally not part of fascism and how dare you suggest it is. Also, I will not be reading anything that contradicts what I believe.”[/quote]
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