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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]After 20 pages, OP, I think you have your answer. [/quote] Actually list still not helpful bc how do you really know how your kid compares to Bobby. Bobby’s hard stats are really only 50% of the equation. You don’t know the rest, which might include great recommendations, or amazing extracurriculars, etc. Also, you are compared only to your own individual class. Just because someone gets into Amherst one year, doesn’t guarantee that a similar kid will get in the following year. [b]The profile of what a college wants changes.[/b] [/quote] As does the profile of the kids applying each year. For example, maybe there was only 1 "Bobby" applying to that college in that year, but your kid's class has 3 kids like Bobby all applying to the same school. You never know who Bobby was competing against in his class or who your child is competing against either. All you know is enrollment (and for some kids you know well, acceptances). Enrollment lists aren't enough, you need to know applications, acceptances, enrollment. And even that isn't helpful if the same kid is counted in acceptances of all the top schools. [/quote] But this information is better than a shot in the dark? And 1 of the many datapoints the senior will use to guide him or her? Don't you agree? [b]Transparency in any process is useful, unless the school is trying to manipulate who goes where.[/b][/quote] Exactly right. PP, some of the commenters on this thread—including those you responded to—are defending Sidwell’s lack of transparency by building straw man arguments. You are saying “more information is good and would be helpful as another piece in the puzzle” and they are characterizing your comments as assets g “more information will tell me exactly where my kid will get in to college and provide me with guarantees.” And so then they tell you that you’re wrong, because no information can satisfy the nonexistent need that they have falsely concocted for you. They defend lack of transparency without explaining why it is necessary or why Sidwell providing more information would be a bad thing.[/quote] There isn't a lack of transparency. The aggregate data is more useful than a single year. Many other schools also do not share a single year because there is no meaning to it in a vacuum for the purposes the "pro-list" poster seems to think it will provide.[/quote] Once again, Sidwell does not share aggregate data. They share a list a list that covers all colleges that any graduate has attended over the prior six years, and identifies in bold those colleges that 5 or more graduates have attended over the 6 year period. That's not even aggregating data, to the extent it doesn't distinguish between 1, 2 and 4, and it doesn't distinguish between 5 and 23.[/quote] So you get a sense of where some kids go and where many kids go. [b]It still has no impact on your kid and their record or preferences.[/b][/quote] There you go again, making up your own reasons and then shooting them down. Why not provide actual aggregate data? Someone asked about other Quaker schools; at least Germantown Friends provides true aggregate data. They also make available their school profile, which Sidwell does not.[/quote]
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