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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I’m trying to put myself in their shoes. So the gist of it, if my 5 1/2 year old eloped from school, and school employees were unable to stop him at the school property line and had to call the police. Then if it took officers 50 minutes and a bunch of “your mom is going to spank you when you get home” and a ride in the cruiser back to school...

I’d be angry... not at the school or police officers but at my child. I can’t imagine ever thinking I was entitled to money because of this. Without seeing the video, I may have a different opinion but I’m not going to take the lawyer’s play by play.[/quote]

Maybe evaluate the boundaries you have for acceptable behavior toward a young child - a FIVE year old.

It’s one thing to pick up the child, let him know in no uncertain terms the behavior was totally unacceptable, and to coordinate with the parent to determine an appropriate path forward. This could include suspension, etc.

It’s another thing to berate, terrorize, and threaten a child with physical harm for over 50 minutes. That’s despicable and completely out of bounds of professional behavior, let alone how any LEO and school should treat a child. Can you as an adult imagine a scenario where you were detained by police who threatened physical harm to you for almost an hour? How would you feel?

Also, how the hell did a child leave the school to begin with? Again, we’re talking a five year old. Where were the responsible adults who are supposed to ensure that young children don’t just walk off school property. If this were a 15 year old, different situation. This is a FIVE year old.

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Nothing from the any articles I’ve read suggested the student was unsupervised. We’ve heard one side- the lawyers.[/quote]

The child left school grounds. Someone was asleep at the wheel.
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Someone may have been asleep at the wheel, but just so we're having a fact-based discussion, MCPS policy is that school staff cannot physically stop a child who is eloping, nor can they follow beyond the school boundary. So, if a child is determined to walk away, school officials can *try* to reason with them (but not touch them) and *try* to redirect their attention, but their choices are extremely constrained.

This is for good reason (staff can't touch kids), but the result is that calling police to retrieve an eloping child is not uncommon at any school in MCPS.

The answer would be more teachers and teacher's aides, and more social workers and counselors to work through the eloping impulses before the child walks out. [/quote]

Please show the exact policy that shows a teacher cannot stop a five year old from leaving a building without a guardian or parent or other authorized adult to escort them. I’ll wait ..... because you know you are full of crap. You and your “fact based” discussion = a pile of cow poop.[/quote]

Staff are not allowed hands on a child to restrain them and stop them from leaving a  campus.  I suspect they didn't notice at first or you'd think they'd have someone follow the child.  At SN schools, adults are trained in restraint, but at a regular ES they are not allowed to do hands on.

Yes, we absolutely need more staff, but that's not going to happen.[/quote]

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