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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]OP, as a fellow host mom the dynamics have changed a lot and many au pairs - now scarce and in demand - are understandably leveraging the new dynamic.

That said, I think if you can afford to pay her more, do so, make her show you she is stepping it up. I think the PP at 5:55 is spot on, but I would phrase it more positively. [/quote]

Trump froze au pair visas for the pandemic. Biden might lift that but I doubt he’ll do it in the first 90 days while we’re staying at 500,000 Americ  as is dead. The au pair deserves more money especially if the kid(s) are home 24/7.

A normal nanny, even with board, would be 2x this for multiple kids.[/quote]

Depends on the number of hours.  Starting live-ins frequently make minimum wage, and if they’re working doing less than 25 hours per week, they could easily gross less than $200.[/quote]

Good nannies made $25./hour plus benefits, plus holiday bonus, plus overtime - this was almost 20 years ago.  There is good reason women pay for au pairs - and the grandmothers brag in bridge class, like their daughter who has an au pair has "made it" - no, your daughter is just cheap, and can't afford a real nanny.

Then, there are the families who think $10./hour plus a uniform for a nanny is "normal" in the U.S. - no, no it's not.

An au pair is bargain for the mom, and the mom, only.  It's almost free child care. [/quote]

It's all relative. A nanny would never be grateful for a live-in job for $10/hr that was only 25-35 hours a week but a split schedule. Au pairs think they're getting a great deal, and are grateful for the money and perks. I'd rather have a happy au pair than an impossible to please nanny, who knows some nanny out there is getting $100k with private jet trips to Aspen. We have had wonderful experiences with au pairs. We could easily afford a nanny, but they've been much more reliable and less entitled than nannies, so we stick with them.

Also, even if I accepted your premise that only parents are getting a good deal, it's just as much a good deal for fathers. Check your misogyny. [/quote]

We KNOW it’s a great deal for fathers. That’s a no1 complaint of au pairs. Handsy creepy fathers[/quote]

It certainly is not. The #1 complaint is going over hours. Have you actually met au pairs or are you just a bitter nanny?[/quote]

OMG. Here it goes. People saying there are Covid cases in schools are teachers; people thinking Trump who’s by the way rushing to execute as many people as possible before 1/20 needs to be held responsible are Socialists, people saying you should respect not the letter of unjust law but do the right thing which is already the law in parts of our land are Nannies! No, big law partner mama here. In DC proper. With kids [/quote]

Great! Then your ignorance about au pair woes is for other reasons! Why don't you educate yourself, mama. As a fellow biglaw lawyer, I know you have the skills if you actually want to find out. Handsy dads are appalling, but rare. Dads who think traffic problems aren't really their fault as 10 hours stretches into 10.5, now that's common. [/quote]

I HAVE found out. Pay the minimum wage or above; or reduce hours.[/quote]

I do both! Lower hours, pay over minimum wage in my state. A full month of vacation, all education expenses (not just the family contribution minimum) paid. That has nothing to do with your claim that the #1 problem au pairs have is sexual assault from fathers. A truly absurd and incorrect claim. [/quote]

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