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If someone has leaked that the President is doing impeachable things, what's really important here is that we investigate the President, not protect him...

...riiight?

We can punish the leaker at our leisure thereafter. Or congratulate him on catching something impeachable, but also train him on the due process of whistle-blowing. Or whatever. But the POINT IS THAT WE CATCH IMPEACHABLE OFFENSES TO ENSURE THEY DO NOT RE-OCCUR.

If this was a Democratic President, some of you posters would have no problem understanding this :-)

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There is NOTHING impeachable here.  That doesn't mean the Dems won't try.  [/quote]
Abuse of power is impeachable, as is the coverup.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/26/biggest-bombshells-in-trump-whistleblower-complaint-cover-up.html[/quote]

Well, since there was no abuse  of power and no cover up, then there is no there there.  [/quote]
? You didn't even bother to read the article. How Trump-like.

--    White House officials were “deeply disturbed” by a July 25 phone call Trump had with Zelensky. There were discussions “with White House lawyers because of the likelihood,” in the minds of officials, “that they had witnessed the President abuse his office for personal gain.”  [b][abuse of power][/b]

[b][coverup][/b]
--    Senior White House officials intervened to “lock down” records of the call with Zelensky, which “underscored to me that White House officials understood the gravity of what had transpired in the call.”

--    White House lawyers directed White House officials to remove the electronic transcript of the Zelensky call from the computer system where such transcripts normally are stored. That transcript then was loaded into a “separate electronic system” that is otherwise used to store and handle classified information of an especially sensitive nature. “One White House official described this act as an abuse of this electronic system because the call did not contain anything remotely sensitive from a national security perspective.”[/quote]

When there is a reason to lock down the calls and store the transcript on a separate server, there is no coverup.  And, there were reasons. 
And, the first bullet is total hearsay.  Third hand hearsay.  Of course the whistleblower will not be held accountable for anything that is false in his complaint because he can claim that whatever was written there is what he heard.  
This is why hearsay evidence is not admissible.  Because, false information can be promoted without consequence.  [/quote]

Uh huh.

You think it's all hunky dory for Trump to pursue his personal interest at the expense of the country's interest.

I don't.[/quote]

Personal interest?  You mean Ukraine's role in influencing the 2016 election? [b] You think that is HIS personal interest? [/b] [/quote]

Uhhh...did Trump run for election in 2016 or not? Was he not personally vested in the outcome of the 2016 election or not?  Is he running for 2020 or not? Does he not have a personal interest in the outcome of the 2020 election or not?[/quote]

This is just rich.  I read here all the time -  "so, what is Trump doing about meddling in the 2020 election?"
So, he wants to find out  exactly what Ukraine did in 2016 to make sure they won't do it again.  [/quote]

^^^This is the funniest post I've read in a long time. Thanks, PP!  :lol:  :lol:  :lol: [/quote]

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