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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I really wish liberals would stop this disgraceful havit of calling everyone a racist or bigot. There is absolutely nothing bigoted about pointing out that white applicants with a 3.8 GPA get rejected from institutions that accept black applicants with a 3.2 GPA (as published data clearly shows) and to discuss the inequity in this situation. It is clearly racist to discriminate based in skin color, which is what these institutions are doing.[/quote]

What’s the right term for thinking blacks are out to take what you think you’re entitled to? 
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NOBODY is entitled to anything. Let the students compete, and the ones with the best grades and test scores get in, with "bonus" points for those from poor backgrounds. [b]But skin color should not be a factor.[/b]

You act as if blacks are ENTITLED to get into to med school regardless of how much lower than grades/scores are compared to whites. [/quote]

Why shouldn’t race be a factor?

Please provide facts that show that there is a level playing ground for all races. 
Because the disadvantage comes from a poor background, with uneducated parents, not race per se. You honestly think Susie Black, whose college-educated parents sent her to private school and paid for a tutor, should get accepted over Billy White, who despite having parents with high school diplomas, managed to get better grades and test scores?

The determining factor should be SES. NOt skin color.

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That doesn't demonstrate a level-playing ground.

Let's say Daeshanda Jackson is applying for the same job as Timothy Smithfield III. Who do you think is more likely to get the call back?

Maybe Ms. Jackson needs that Harvard on her resume a little more than Mr. Smithfield.

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OK.....now please concentrate:

Under an SES-based AA policy, Daeshanda (assuming she is from a modest background) will STILL get preferential treatment over his Majesty, Mr. III.

But what about if Daeshanda is the daughter of a lawyer and a dentist, and she has a 3.2 GPA as she applies to Med school. (Unless with your liberal bigotry, you are assuming that someone named Daeshanda is poor?) Also competing is Billy, whose parents have a high school education, and thus he had to work 20 hours a week all through college to help pay the bills. Despite that, he has a 3.7 GPA. There's one spot remaining, and due to AA, Daeshanda gets it. BIlly, despite applying throughout the country, can't get admitted, and he  has to lower his expectations and go back to school for a nursing certificate. Is that fair? Why should rich Daeshanda get in, with lower scores, athan the poor whites boy?

YOU want to see admissions decisions based on skin color, and I want to make decisions race-blind and allot a special leg up to those who, through challenging economic circumstances, still were able to achieve academically. If you would take off your blinders, you would realize that such a policy would still favor black kids, as black families are (on average) significantly poorer than white families.

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