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That's why many low-income Americans will choose Trump. They feel left out with the current favoritism of illegals by the Democrat party.[/quote]

Mostly just the white ones. Non-white low income Americans by and large favor the Democrats. So, Trump support is mostly a function of being white; not being poor. [/quote]

I’m not white and also not poor and am closer to Trump than to the current crop of Dems on immigration. I loathe Trump and don’t think I can bring myself to vote for him, but I might sit out the election (as a PA voter) if the Democratic candidate is too far left on immigration. And there are lots more like me. [/quote]

Then you're completely gullible and have fallen for the Bannon/Miller long play to inflate immigration into a voting issue.  Please, think more critically. What the Democrats are reacting to is the Trump administration's purposefully vicious acts -- arbitrarily pulling visas on the basis of religion; separating children; putting children in detention camps instead of better shelters.  They did this on purpose, to get a reaction out of Democrats, so they in turn could create the specter of the "emergency at the border" and claim that the Democrats' reaction TO THEIR VICIOUSNESS constitutes being "too far left on immigration."

So please, actually look at the record of the Democratic party on immigration, as well as the candidates. Literally nobody is calling for open borders.  [/quote]

I’m the PP you’re responding to. And look, I disagree with you and I resent your assumption that Democrats (and people, in general) who disagree with you on this issue are somehow stupid or gullible. We don’t know each other, but I can tell you that I’m just as educated and capable of critical thinking as you. I agree that the current situation on the border (“children in detention camps”) is horrible and unsustainable. Where I disagree with you is that we need to fix the system in the long term by disincentivizing people to cross the border in the first place. We need to stop rewarding bogus asylum seekers, many of whom are just economic migrants, by allowing them to cross the border in the first place. They should apply in their home countries or wait in Mexico to be approved so that we’re not in the business of housing them and their children at all. And of course we should continue to enforce immigration laws and criminalize unlawful entry. And, frankly, I am fine with deporting those who have knowingly and willfully violated our immigration laws and skipped the line where plenty of highly-skilled would-be immigrants from other countries are waiting to years to do it the right way. I don’t agree that simply “wanting a better life” is appropriate justification - we cannot help all of the world’s poor, and there are plenty of poor Americans that the government should help first. And unfortunate as it is, many of the Democratic candidates simply refuse to acknowledge this. So while Trump is not going about it the right way, and the situation at the border is awful, he is at least articulating something the Democrats won’t, and I’m afraid that he’s going to win because of it. While none of the Democrats are officially arguing for open borders, please review Julian Castro’s immigration plan (it’s on his website) and let me know how, functionally, that is different.[/quote]

+1 my thoughts as well [/quote]

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