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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I used to be an economics professor. I did my graduate and undergraduate work at two universities that are in the top ten in my field. When I began teaching at a local private university, I discovered, in talking with the students, that they hadn;t covered the same material in their intro econ courses that is generally covered in the same courses at the top ten schools. The local private university had left out more rigorous topics. The professors at the local private also tended to ask their students to do in class debate or presentations, rather than writing lengthy papers. So some colleges do pitch their courses to the median student.

They don;t have to, though. If this same thing is actually occurring at Wilson, parents should be able to provide numerous examples of topics left off the syllabus or assignments made less rigorous. Please do so. If it is happening, supporting evidence should be easy to find.

Without supporting evidence, the hostility to Honors for All just sounds like ranting.

This metastudy seems to suggest that, on average, previous posters noting that detracking doesn;t hurt top students, but helps student at the bottom.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/21349011/

While this one suggests that within- class ability grouping benefits high achieving students, while between- class grouping does not.

https://eric.ed.gov/?id=EJ1121483[/quote]

Sorry at some point the studies don't matter and you have to use common sense

If you have kids who are multiple levels behind grade level with kids who are multiple levels above grade level there is no way a teacher can differentiate across that wide gap especially in high school.  A teacher will most likely teach on grade level.  So what happens is the kids on the bottom will struggle and some might drop out since there is no lower level and the material is way beyond their ability.  Meanwhile the kids at the top will be extremely bored with the material and have essentially wasted a year of school.  Additionally on both sides there will most likely be discipline issues because the class is not relevant to the top bottom or the top.  [/quote]

Where is your evidence that there are a significant number of students at Wilson this year that are multiple grade levels ahead, and multiple grade levels behind?

How are you privy to the achievement data of nearly 500 kids? Do you at least have it broken down by percentages and by what measure? Their 8th grade PARCC?
i-ready?

As for bored kids, all kids will be bored in school sometimes and that, in itself, doesn't mean the teachers are watering down things. The teachers are required to teach the DCPS content for that grade. Your bored kids should approach their teacher for outside reading or projects to complete on their own time and take responsibility for their own education.[/quote]

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