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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Here you go:

SY2015-2016
IB Diploma Candidates
IB Diplomas Awarded
Percent of IB Candidates Awarded IB Diploma
Total Graduates
Percent of Graduates Awarded IB Diploma Annandale High 47 29 61.7% 534 [b]5.4%[/b]
Edison High 52 43 82.7% 425 10.1%
Lee High 21 21 100.0% 401[b] 5.2%[/b]
Marshall High 82 79 96.3% 422 18.7%
Mount Vernon High 17 9 52.9% 432 [b]2.1%[/b]
Robinson High 157 131 83.4% 650 20.2%
South Lakes High 84 73 86.9% 522 14.0%
Stuart High 71 40 56.3% 388 10.3%
Total 531 425 80.0% 3,774 11.3%

This is from the link a few pages back.  Pretty dreary results.
Take out Robinson and Marshall and the results are pretty bleak--especially considering the resources.
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Sigh. Once again, these numbers aren't comparable to AP. You only have to take 3 AP classes to potentially be an AP scholar. Sure, according to this only 2.1% of Mount Vernon students complete the IB program. What share of students at a similar SES but AP school take [b]11[/b] AP classes--that's what's roughly comparable to an IB diploma. Conversely, you could compare the share of students who take any IB class at Mount Vernon with the share of students who take any AP class at other high schools. That too would be a more apples-to-apples comparison, especially if comparing two similar SES schools.[/quote]

This is not remotely true.  First off, no one is saying simply being an AP scholar with 3 courses is equivalent to the IB diploma; the awards requiring 4 or 5 AP classes would be better comparison.  But an IB diploma is in no way equivalent to 11 AP classes.  To make up an example, you can get an IB diploma by taking IB English HL (AP Language and AP Literature), IB History SL (one AP social studies course). IB Biology HL (AP Biology), IB Math Studies SL (does not include calculus, equivalent in content to a precalculus class and not a college-level math class), IB French ab initio SL (after 3 years of study, so not at the level of an AP course), and IB Psychology HL (AP Psychology).  This is equivalent to 5 AP courses.[/quote]

You are way off. In your example, you would need:

IB English HL:  AP Lit and AP Lang
IB History SL:  AP History
IB Bio HL (2 years after honors Bio, so AP Bio and Post AP Bio)
IB Math SL:I year of post pre-Calc math (part AP Calc AB part AP stats). Math Studies not offered at most HSs
IB psych HL (2 years, so AP Psych plus Post AP psych) BUT-- Most FCPS HSs do not offer AP psych HL.  You need a different HL class.  Most kids do Math HL, which is Calc BC. 
IB French: equivalent of AP French. You need a minimum of 4 years of language for all language SL except Latin. 5 years recommended. 
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