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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If inside my body is less private than inside my house (where government can not search without a warrant), I don't know what is privacy anymore and where government intrusion can stop.[/quote]

If there's a heart beating within your body, in addition to your own beating heart, it's not just YOUR body. [/quote]

Yes, it is. Legally, ethically, and morally.[/quote]

Legally, yes. Ethically and morally would depend on the ethics and morals of the person who is pregnant with the baby and its beating heart.[/quote]

Like the oxygen masks on airplanes, a pregnant woman's first and greatest responsibility is to herself.  [b]After that, it is up to her how much care she wishes to give the other beating heart.[/b][/quote]

Yes, but I'm sure you've heard the rest of the flight attendant's message...first put mask on your own face so that you can then breathe and help those who are dependent on you. That's where a mother's ethics and morals come into the picture. [/quote]

Exactly.  And in some cases, the woman's morals and ethics indicate that she should have the abortion, because [b]she's not ready to create a being[/b] that will be so dependant on her.  [/quote]

Not trying to be unkind here, but the "being" is already created. I'm not saying it's an easy decision; I know it's very, very hard. That's why I wish more women would think ahead and use birth control.

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Agree. Plus, I think lots of those who get abortions, don't really want to. They get talked into it. [/quote]

And what do you base this opinion on? Such a patronizing/paternalistic view of women, to imply they can't make decisions for themselves. In fact research has shown that the vast majority of women who get abortions do not regret their decisions.[/quote]

If true, how sad. It's one thing to make the very hard decision to abort a baby. It's quite another to have no regrets at all. [/quote]

Another patronizing view of women.[/quote]

That statement is not at all patronizing. It would be amazingly cold-hearted to have no regrets.[/quote]

I truly don't know why I bother, but I want to speak to this.

I had an abortion. I do not regret it for a second. I didn't regret it when I had it, and I don't regret it several years later. I regret that my birth control failed, but that was not my fault or something I could do anything about. I was sad that I was in the position at all, because trust me when I say that literally no one who has an abortion does it for fun. It's not a fun procedure. It's not something I enjoyed. But you know what? The decision WASN'T hard for me. It was actually really, really easy. Deciding to have a baby at the time that I had the abortion would have been a really hard decision.

I don't think that I'm a cold-hearted person. I decided to have an abortion as soon as I found out I was pregnant, and I never thought of that pregnancy as turning into a baby. I also had 3 miscarriages before the abortion, and I think that experience taught me that early pregnancy is tenuous and not to get attached to the idea of a baby until it was clear that the pregnancy was viable. When I got pregnant unintentionally after my first husband left me following the miscarriages (an actually cold-hearted thing to do), I never once thought of the pregnancy as viable.

I understand if that does not make sense to you, but please understand that when you say "amazingly cold-hearted" you have NO idea what people go through to come to the decision they come to. You might think that you know and can generalize, but you can't generalize about my coldness of heart anymore than I can generalize about yours. [/quote]

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