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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Holy Cheese and Crackers!  Wow.

This thread is just bananas.  I've posted a bit before when some stuff came up about the DC United online school charges and some other things....

First things first.  I do not have a child playing at the academy but do know two past players and a current player.  Past player 1 was there, left and came back and is now playing professionally.   Player 2 spent most of their later youth career there and is also playing professionally.  Both are in the MLS.

Both have said that the experiences there could have been better as many mention.  But they made it to where they wanted to be.  Was it luck, their hard work, DC United?  IDK for sure, but it's great that they did.  I do suspect that DCU had less to do with it than anything else.

Current player is new to their program but is at an older age and wanted the experience of playing at an academy level.  They are doing online school from their home district and are close enough to be able to commute. FWIW, this player already committed to play college soccer at a Big10 school.  So, pro plans weren't in the works before this experience at DCU.

There are local players in my area that have gone to DC United, but there currently 4 kids playing at Union even though DCU is closer.  Plus we have others at Columbus, Charlotte, etc.  [b]I think that is telling that although DCU isn't the greatest, but if it's an option, it may be better than continuing to play P2P club.  [/b]

Good luck to all.  [/quote]

Thanks for the neutral data.  This is where this conversation goes array.  People like me suggest P2P because we are going to Europe by U16.  P2P is the most efficient route to effectively managing that move versus giving our rights to DCU.  If you don't want to go to Europe, fine.  Just don't tell me the DCU academy is a great option for those kids truly looking to go pro with the full support of their parents.

I would not argue that a kid playing D1 soccer, which is not an efficient pro pathway, should stay in P2P versus going to a pro academy for free.  He should take that deal 101x out of 100.  This conversation has become uneducated because the pro-DCU folks are completely emotional and lack acumen regarding development and simply kiss the DCU ring.

What nobody seems to see is a problem is why would DCU have a spot on an academy team for a player already committed to go to college when the goal should be to produce professionals.  Yes, no brainer for the kid, but you mean to tell me they are that limited in the talent pool that they have to accept that kid and they are the only academy covering DC, MD, VA, DE and WV?!?  Is nobody curious why Makai Wells is being called up to the U17 USMNT and playing professionally for NE Rev II when he is from DC probably not on the radar when he was here?  That is called [b]development[/b] and it is crazy that people in DCU don't understand the D word.[/quote]

GREAT points.  If you have European ambition, going to DCU is a negative.  Period.  Not impossible but a negative because they will.have a say in your move now that they have gotten greedy in the transfer market. P2P allows you to leave to Europe unencumbered which, for European clubs, is gold.  A free player that is at the level will be highly sought after. Having to negotiate with DCU, will just be a deterrent and slow your process (which is already complicated).

Players with GENUINE ambition to become professionals leave the DMV market if they have the ability and the means. They do this because DCU cannot develop players with its current setup, methodology, coaching slate and structure.  If you're currently at DCU, it doesn't mean that all is lost.  It just means that your chances of becoming a pro are just not great for all the reasons already stated....no second, team, no money, no development methodology, no accountability to the players, weak leadership, and a no vision for the future. [/quote]

In addition to DCU having a seat at your negotiation in a transfer, if you're in DCUs system for a long time, you won't progress as much as a player because their development methodology is weak and players in better systems will be better than you and progress faster than you over time.

What that means is that if you should actually make it to Europe from DCU,  the likelihood of your skills being ready to have immediate impact on a competitive,.high level European roster are very slim. You would have to go to a club that sees your potential and is willing to wait to further develop you.  At younger ages this is more.realistic.  At older ages, much harder as the clubs don't have time to wait on you.  There is talent everywhere...

You will need good advisors around you that know know what they are talking about to make the right moves.[/quote]

Explain why a DCU Academy player product is currently on the roster of a Premier League Senior team at 18 years old if DCU academy cannot produce European level players?
Explain why every MLS academy doesn't also currently have academy products in the top league in the World if DCU is the worst?

Just seeking some logical clarification, not an argument

If someone says you can't cross the Bay Bridge in a Honda, then I see a Honda Accord driving over and make it to the other side, I'd ask for an explanation. [/quote]

Oh god...here we go again with you.  How many times do you have to hear the same thing???

His family had connections and had an agent and was trying desperately to get him out of DCU before DCU squandered all of his precious time as a young player.  Not a transfer DCU produced for him.  He was sitting on the bench not playing in the MLS...He went to Bournemouths SECOND team which is part of their academy so don't try and paint a picture of something that isnt the case. This is not someone playing in the premier league.  So essentially went from being on the first team at DCU to an academy team.   He went because he has physical traits that are attractive to a club and he had a good agent. Did he come.from.DCU, yes but I would gamble large sums that if you asked him or anyone close to him who developed him it wouldn't be DCU.  And in fact, I would also gamble that they would say DCU was a hindrance to his development

But hold on to that one example, because there aren't many others.  And there won't be many others any time soon.  [/quote]

Facts: He is a DC United Academy Product who is currently on the AFC Bournemouth FIRST TEAM

https://www.afcb.co.uk/teams

Many players parents know people. That may open doors easier, but only talent and potential keeps you there.

Your biased madness is perfect in our current political climate.

-"DCU cannot produce Professional Players to top European teams so don't go there"

But DCU academy has a player currently at a Premier League Club

-"DCU didn't get him there, Santa Clause did"

But if he went from Philly Union academy to Bournemouth, you'd say Philly did it 😆😄
You need a big red nose and bunch of balloons [/quote]

Maybe click through to see how many appearances he's had with the first team.  Then go check the line-ups for their development squad and tell me facts about how he's on the FIRST TEAM.[/quote]

You're a sad, pitiful, despicable HATER!

So the AFC Bournemouth website is lying and he's not listed clearly on their First Team

Your negativity and bad karma is probably a reflection of your failures, hence your constant need to feel better by putting down the accomplishments of this player.

Sad little person. Be gone[/quote]

oh my.  nothing against the player, at all.  great accomplishments.  hopefully he'll have more.  but you . . . just be accurate.  [/quote]

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