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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Re: Baldoni's career, I find him to be creepy and a jerk but in the context of Hollywood, I don't think what he did was *that* terrible.

The irony though is HE is the one who built his persona around this feminism crap. He's the one who said he would be man enough to listen to women when they call him out, but instead he gets huffy when they don't want to hug, or jokes "I must have missed the HR training" when he's told they don't want to be called sexy, and opens up with incredibly weird comments about consent in his personal sex life. That's 100% on him. He was the one who made that important. Wayfarer is the one that marketed itself as having a higher calling, making movies for the greater good... and then you have Baldoni and Heath running around like asses (which multiple people confirm) and Sarowitz saying he wants to destroy people, as Israel did to Hamas. Baldoni wanting to use DV as the marketing plan to make himself look good, even discussing lifting "survivor content" from his DMs. This is all a problem they created, they are hypocrites, and it came out. It's not unlike the argument that Lively has always been a bully and difficult and it just came out, "organically."

I don't see what is sympathetic about the Wayfarer guys, they don't practice what they preach, and they are the ones who promoted themselves as being better than everybody else. I would not be surprised at all to hear Directors making comments about actresses being sexy (and much, much worse) or Hollywood financiers comparing themself to Israel against Hamas... but they marketed themselves as not being the typical Hollywood studio. They obviously believed that this stuff about Baldoni and Heath coming out would hurt their reputation (IMO, it's why they hired Wallace) because they chose to build their reputation on this higher calling. It's what makes them so distasteful to me.[/quote]

Oh please. They were making a crappy Colleen Hoover book into a movie. If you believed they’re trying to answer to a higher calling through moviemaking that’s on you. Everything I know everybody in this industry is total BS and branding.

I just don’t think anything he did on that side went against feminism. Give me a break. It’s a Hollywood set and all these people are terrible.[/quote]

I didn't believe anything about them before the case. Never heard of them except for Baldoni being in Jane the Virgin. Hearing he was a "male feminist" immediately made me suspicious.[/quote]

One positive outcome of this case might be that men won't try to market themselves as Male Feminists (tm) anymore. I'm all for men supporting women and women's issues, and supporting feminist values -- I think in the long run most feminist goals benefit men, anyway. But men who have tried to make a living selling themselves as Male Feminists tend to be grifters. Why would you make that your professional identity, especially when you already have a whole career? Justin could have just made movies and sought to support his wife and other women through his actions, rather than trying to make money and get famous off of it.

It's similar to those people who sell themselves as anti-racist gurus. Like, yes, let's oppose racism, obviously. But when some white lady is like "hey, buy my book about how to be a good white person, like me!" I'm suspicious. Come on.[/quote]

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