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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Looks like Ukraine has committed its forces in the southeast. Hopefully there's a breakthrough

Very perplexed by African countries going through with their summit meeting with Putin. Genuinely bizarre. There's no good outcome here.

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I'm not worried at all.

Sure, they can buy off the corrupt government heads with hookers and money, but that will be similar to their relationship with Saudi Arabia - a marriage of convenience that ends in divorce when the water gets too hot.

It will give the [b]Africans time to really get to know Russians well. [/b] The average ultranationalist supporting the government is exceptionally xenophobic and unconditionally racist. [b] My guess is that some FSB agent or cop will see a black diplomat on the street, not realize they're a dignitary and treat them exactly the way the other 0.04% of blacks are treated in Russia.[/b]  It will be a 'warm welcome' I'm sure.  In the end, I think the Russian government will drive their own wedge between themselves and Africa.[/quote]

LOL you say this like thousands of Africans haven't been educated in Russia over the last fifty years.  They've experienced life on the Russian streets in full, and yet lived to tell the tale, and somehow retained a warm affection for the country. [/quote]

Thirty thousand African students are enrolled in higher education programs in Russia today.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1131857/number-of-african-students-in-russia-by-country/[/quote]

The US has tens of thousands of African students too.  Interesting that hardly any of Russia's African students ever bother to stay in Russia, or to come back to Russia after finishing their studies.  Russia's population is only 0.06% African origin, only around 90,000 total, including your 30,000 students.  Compare that to to 2.1 million African immigrants living in the US.  Russia goes through the motions with its legacy Soviet-era student program, but is NOT that attractive to Africans.  [/quote]

Are African students in the US studying on an all-expenses-paid program?

Russian education programs for the African students are explicitly designed for these students to return home so their communities can benefit from their expertise.  (Which is exactly the purpose for the multiple US scholarship program like FUllbright and Muskie, where beneficiaries are legally required to return to their home country for at least 2 years).

I am sure you realize that historically there is no native African population in Russia.  A bit disingenuous to compare that to the African immigrant community in the US. [/quote]

No dear, you misread.  There are [i]2.1 million African-born immigrants[/i] in the US.  As in, [i]not born in the US and came to the US. [/i] In addition to the African-Americans.  Thus your excuse for why there aren't more Africans in Russia is a failure.[/quote]

Does Russia need an excuse for not having enough Africans? It's not an immigration state like America is, for better or worse.  There isn't any organic reason for there to be a sizable African community in Russia.[/quote]

FAIL.  What you mean to say is that Russia is racist, does not like Africans, and the only reason they do things like pay Africans to go to college in Russia is for performative reasons to try and use it to expand their sphere of influence.  But the Africans who've actually done it, experienced the "streets of Russia" for themselves see right through it, they see that they are unwelcome in Russia, and for that reason, do not choose to stay.

If there isn't an "organic reason" for Africans to be in Russia, then there isn't an organic reason for anyone to be there.  [/quote]

Would you say the same thing to, like, Iceland?  Their African population is probably negligible.

Every foreign student who elects not to stay is doing it because they feel unwelcome? Hmmm.  You think immigration laws have nothing to do with that?  You have magic powers that see into the hearts of men and discern the reasons they do things? Okay. I suggest you take steps to monetize them.  Magic powers are fleeting!

On second thought though, do continue. Never change.  I'm just gonna sit here and enjoy the delicious irony of America accusing other countries of racism.   While you ponder your next tirade, I'm gonna switch to the DCPS section and enjoy the hand-wringing about "school quality" and lottery agony by way of illustrations to the racism conundrum. Please do come up with something fresh in the meantime. [/quote]

Why are you here?  All you do is bash and accuse America of hypocrisy, racism, whatever else.  It's clear you hate America.  And you're probably also the same poster who has repeatedly talked about how much x costs in back home in a Russian supermarket, and who was whining that you have a Russian family member "suffering" because they are named on a sanctions list for supporting the war in Ukraine.  So why are you even here at all, in this country that you spew so much bile and hatred for?  If Russia is so great and wonderful and America is so awful, how about you go there, and leave the rest of us, who don't hate America, out of your delusional hateful diatribes?[/quote]

(This is why, boys and girls, you can never have a sincere conversation with an American about America.  It always comes to this.  Always. Trust me on this.  As an immigrant, there are certain things you are simply not allowed to say.)

Why am I here? I'm a DC area mom - just like you.  This is a free forum.

I don't happen to hate America.  There are many things here that are wonderful.  America's foreign policy, though, is not one of them.

Do feel free to write to Jeff, though.  Maybe he'd introduce a set of thought rules and principles one must embrace before posting here.  Until then, I'm as free to post here as you are. [/quote]

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