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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think the upshot here is, parents choose, or decline to choose Hardy based on more than just whether their kid would theoretically perform well there.  My kid would theoretically perform well at Hardy, and I think Hardy is a great school, but I chose to send him elsewhere.  Some people will say that's racist, some people will say that's a waste of a perfectly good school, whatever.  The bottom line is, if you are lucky enough to be able to choose, you will likely choose what you feel is the best fit for your child, and base that decision on those factors that are most important to you (it's the reason why so many OOB parents send their kids to Hardy - they chose that option, decided their IB school wasn't the right fit, and were lucky enough to make it happen).  It's not perfect, and not everyone will agree with your decision, but, hey, that's their problem, not yours.

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I am the PP who discussed the PD payoff matrices and provided a list of 10 reasons to choose high-performing cohorts despite an expectation that your own kid's performance on standardized tests will be no worse either way.

The above PP, yes, thank you, this is a good way (and a nice way) of saying what I am trying to say.

To the PP who points out that my information assumption is just as extreme as OP's, yep, mea culpa. We have no survey data on what IB Hardy parents think about this (wouldn't that be interesting!), so we are left to our own devices and you are free to assume whatever you wish. The truth no doubt lies in between these extremes.

Note however: this PD or coordination game is played by Hardy IB families, so let's keep the analysis focused on what they might think, and not on whatever Hardy-bashing nonsense you find on DCUM by people claiming or insinuating IB Hardy status. I see some posts criticizing Hardy wherein, based on the language used and the lack of knowledge about the feeder ESs and private schools and just my gut feeling, I wonder how many of them are actually IB. These people are just trolling, welcome to the internet. When we form our assumptions about what IB Hardy parents know or don't know, let's base those assumptions on the actual IB demographic (affluent, well-educated, democrat) and not on whatever people say on DCUM claiming to be IB.

And yes, people use outdated information and emotion and all that. However, I did quickly provide off the top of my head 10 rational reasons to choose a high performing school, and together we could think of more. So if we want our analysis to have rigor, let's not ignore the possibility of emotion and hearsay playing a role, but let's also not dismiss the many solid reasons to make the choice. I imagine we could also make a list of 10 reasons to choose a Title I school like Hardy.

One of the reasons why I bother participating in this thread is because I hate the assumptions and race-baiting in the other Hardy threads. There seems to be this constant suggestion that, if you choose to avoid Hardy, you are ignorant of the analysis posted by OP. Or, you are a racist. I think this is generally wrong on both counts. In most cases we are talking about highly educated people with liberal values who are well informed but simply think differently from the OP about how to choose a school. To each his or her own.

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However, you're not making a very good case for yourself, when you make statements that dismiss others and hold your "truths" to be self-evident.  For instance, who, besides you, talked about OP's views (data actually) as being "extreme" and why should we accept the the truth lies somewhere between "these  extremes"?

And who's to say that some of the Hardy bashing here is not done by IB Hardy parents? Could be.  And why accept YOUR  perception of what IB Hardy parents would think based on their known demographics?  Their demographics are like the Deal demographics and a few years ago IB Deal people were responding to their school a lot like the Hardy people are acting now.[/quote]

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