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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The fund is up to almost $72,000 for the pizza place owners and consistently growing.[/quote] IIRC, this is sort of like what the Christian baker in Oregon described. After he refused to sell to the lesbian couple, he got a ton of orders from pro-religion / anti-gay groups nationwide, and his business was booming for six months. Then as the news articles subsided, his out-of-state business dried up. Since his local business reputation was trashed, he had to close the bakery for lack of orders. I suspect the pizza place might get the same initial support, but will face long-term problems.[/quote] I don't see how his reputation was "trashed." He is anti-gay-marriage and wouldn't provide wedding cakes to gay couples. That's not smear -- that's the truth. So, once the ruckus died down, the local market decided to vote with their feet and take their money somewhere else. Works for me.[/quote] Yea, I do not get the PP's who somehow think that these folks are somehow "entitled" to a certain amouunt of business. My religous views aside, it was dumb for a small business owner to take this sort of stand, especially in the Pacific NW. From a business perspective, he had a poor handle on his market. Further, if his views were so lauded by Christians, why didn't local Christians go out of their way to patronize him long term? That's the questions some of blaming "Libtard" rabble rousers should be asking. [/quote] They apparently are doing online business now i would never open brick and mortar these days for lots of reasons. The fund for the pizza place is now at half a mil. Clearly there are like-minded folks, and others who are simp,y sick of the bullying left[/quote] This was never about religion. “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” - Galatians 5:14 This is about bigotry, no ifs, ands or buts. A TRUE Christian would have instead spent the $500,000 on pizzas to feed the homeless rather than spending it to prop up bigotry and hate. This pizza parlor, and its supporters, 50 years ago would have been the exact same people refusing to let blacks eat at a lunch counter. The behavior is one and the same and is as inexcusable now as it was then.[/quote] And, who exactly are YOU to judge? Matthew 7:1-3: Judge not, that ye be not judged. How do YOU know how this family will spend the money? You don’t. And, how do YOU know what this family would have done 50 years ago? You don’t. Seems to me that liberals are the MOST judgmental people here. [/quote] But I guess it's fine to judge gays and deem them unfit to do business with. :roll:[/quote] They are NOT judging gays. They cannot, in good conscience, cater a gay wedding. According to their religious beliefs. Remember, they have stated they welcome gays into their restaurant and would serve them. It is not about being gay. It is about the religious aspect of the ceremony. [/quote] If these Christian groups had constrained themselves to this single principled distinction for the last thirty years, I might believe them. Unfortunately they have fought gays every single step of the way. [/quote] Please elaborate on how “these Christian groups” have fought gays. First, you are lumping ALL Christian groups into a single group. Secondly, just because one believes that marriage is a holy ceremony between a man and woman does NOT mean they have “fought gays.” This is the issue that Christians who believe in traditional marriage have with those who say they are “hating.” It is not about the person - who happens to be gay - but the ceremony, which some believe to be a religious one. But, the left’s narrative is that if you are against gay marriage, you are a hater, and a bigot. There is nothing further from the truth. [/quote] Ok then - why were Cons (including Christians) against the civil partnerships and civil union concept then? [/quote]
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