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You said in your experience you have never been raped by a transgendered.  You have never been raped period.  The poster you dismissed with your lack self-righteousness said that she felt unsafe and uncomfortable with male and their genitalia while she was in a vulnerable position of undress.  She had been raped.  You have no standing to dismiss her feelings.  Until you have been spread eagled begging for your life while some person with male organs penetrating you shut the fuck up about what's possible and what's not.  You have no standing.  She does.  I do.  All the reading in the word will never make you understand or feel that time.  You have no right to Poo Poo her feelings you helfer.  [/quote]

I did not dismiss her feelings. She has a right to her feelings. However, she does not have a right to require other people to do things that are not safe for them, based on her feelings.[/quote]

NP here. Most facilities are safe. In fact most of them are as safe for cispeople in appropriate facilities as they are for transpeople in 'wrong gender' facilities. Bad things happen. But they happen to ciswomen in women's rooms just as well as to transwomen in men's rooms. You can't seriously suggest keeping ONE kind of people super duper awesome safe and for the rest of the humans on earth to just deal with the possibility of having an intruder in their facilities who is going to molest, rape or murder them. Doesn't make sense.

Make facilities safe. That's the solution to this problem.
Make gender neutral facilities is the solution to the comfort/discomfort type problem.[/quote]

While this is a good long-term solution, sometimes you can't just renovate a facility and add a room just like that.  So, while plans to provide an alternate third changing room for whatever reason may be the ultimate goal, each facility needs to find a way to address current needs and requirements within the facilities that they have.

I am not belittling rape victims or others who are uncomfortable with a transgender using their locker rooms, but since there are no other facilities that provide those services and Planet Fitness now provides advertisement that this is their policy, it is up to those members who feel that they are no longer comfortable with the policies to look for other gyms to use.  As to why they can't be accommodated, it's because there are no other facilities that provide for the safety of the transgender community, but there are many other gyms that provide for the comfort of those uncomfortable with transgender use of their facilities.  [/quote]

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