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NP here. Most facilities are safe. In fact most of them are as safe for cispeople in appropriate facilities as they are for transpeople in 'wrong gender' facilities. Bad things happen. [b]But they happen to ciswomen in women's rooms just as well as to transwomen in men's rooms[/b]. You can't seriously suggest keeping ONE kind of people super duper awesome safe and for the rest of the humans on earth to just deal with the possibility of having an intruder in their facilities who is going to molest, rape or murder them. Doesn't make sense.

Make facilities safe. That's the solution to this problem.
Make gender neutral facilities is the solution to the comfort/discomfort type problem.[/quote]

The bad things that happen to ciswomen in women's rooms are not done by transwomen. (Unless you know of some cases that nobody else knows about?) Therefore, banning transwomen from women's rooms will not make ciswomen safer. But it will make transwomen less safe.[/quote]

[b]So we disregard thousands, millions of people in order to accommodate a minority that could also be kept safe with measures that everyone, cismen, ciswomen, transmen and transwomen could benefit from[/b]? That does not make sense. Unless of course you do actually care about the comfort and safety of transwomen more than that of cismen, ciswomen and transmen...Why exactly are safety measures for ALL not an acceptable option to you? Why does it have to be to let ciswomen use women's facilities and disregard everybody and everything else?[/quote]

How are we disregarding them? As you say, we are talking about safety. Transwomen are not a threat to the safety of ciswomen in women's locker rooms.

I agree that it would be a good solution for public places to put in some single-user facilities, available for anybody to use who wants to use them. For example, a ciswoman who does not feel comfortable sharing the women's locker room with a transwoman.[/quote]

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