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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It used to be that whites used to be overwhelmingly opposed to affirmative action because they thought they were being disadvantaged against AA and hispanics. Now they realize that they're actually being helped by affirmative action because they are taking the spots of asians who are more qualified than them. So now whites are overwhelmingly supportive of affirmative action. How funny. Years ago, there used to be arguments made that it was time to get rid of affirmative action because equality has evolved long enough that all races are at an even playing field. But then I read an essay that said affirmative action will never go away once whites realize that getting rid of it will not help them but will help asians instead. How right he was.[/quote] Kind of broad-brush statements to be making about ALL whites. Before the Asian Americans boomed as a demographic and competition against each other intensified, you didn't hear much complaining about the benefits they got from affirmative action, which, let's face it, was set up to help rectify wrongs that held back and entire ethnic group (African Americans), not to assist other groups that were in many cases not similarly disadvantaged and perfectly able to qualify on merit. BTW, affirmative action doesn't just affect college admission, do Asians feel similarly affronted by its impact on them in the workplace or job market? Are their lawsuits there? And if not, why not, since these high performing Asian Americans would seemingly be competing against a higher proportion of Asians and have to work much harder than whites to get a good job. Seems to me this is where the argument falls apart. As a PP has noted, there's too much wanting admission to our elite colleges to be like a Chinese gaokao -- having all the right numbers (whether it's test scores, or now that folks have clued in, number and rank of ECs.} This is lockstep drive for a credential that has been deemed of overarching importance to cultures that value education. To each his own, but at the end of the day we are arguing at the margins. All of these schools are only so big and every year turn away thousands of qualified kids of all ethnicities. Short of documentation or real evidence to support a quota designed to limit Asians at these schools (as opposed to suppositions based on what was done in the past or a gripe that the total number of Asians should be larger because there are so many in the world ) this seems like whining. [/quote]
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