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Back it up with the Quran or bow out.[/quote]

Since you asked. For those who don't know, "those whom your right hands possess" is a euphemism for "slave women." Additional Quranic verses support taking prisoners of war as slaves, and I can add those verses in a later post if you want me to.

[b]Qur’an 33:50—O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee . . .[/b]

Also,

Qur’an 4:24—Also (prohibited are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess . . .

Qur’an 23:1-6—The Believers must (eventually) win through—those who humble themselves in their prayers; who avoid vain talk; who are active in deeds of charity; who abstain from sex; except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, or (the captives) whom their right hands possess—for (in their case) they are free from blame.

Qur’an 70:22-30—Not so those devoted to Prayer—those who remain steadfast to their prayer; and those in whose wealth is a recognized right for the (needy) who asks and him who is prevented (for some reason from asking); and those who hold to the truth of the Day of Judgement; and those who fear the displeasure of their Lord—for their Lord’s displeasure is the opposite of Peace and Tranquility—and those who guard their chastity, except with their wives and the (captives) whom their right hands possess—for (then) they are not to be blamed.

(Editorial note. I can't believe you think your rhetorical strategies are working for you. Whenever you make something up, whenever you challenge someone to provide proof, you seem to be just crossing your fingers and hoping that nobody will call you out. But somebody always does call you out. Do you never learn?)[/quote]

Everybody had slaves in those days. Wheres the Quranic reference that encourages or permits rape. [/quote]

Since you ask. Concubine (those whom your right hand possesses) by definition refers to sex, and all the quotes above are in the context of defining who the Muslim man can have sex with. In the bolder part, what do you think "we have made lawful into you...those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee . . .[/b]" means? That the Muslim man can have sex with captured women.

You can't possibly be arguing that she's consenting to sex with the guy who killed her husband or her other male family members. Or can you? On the concubine thread you cited a few verses that say a Muslim man can't sell his concubines out to other men (he can't prostitute them). You never proved that "sex with your captor" is somehow better than, or different from, rape.

Honestly, you must be a troll trying to provoke people into spelling out the most difficult parts of Islam. Anybody who's watched even 1 episode of 1 crime procedural knows the first rule of arguing a case: don't ask questions you don't know the answer to, or questions you don't want the jury to hear the answer to. [/quote]

I read that the Christian crusaders used to also take female slaves after war, and quite often they would be raped and sold. Apparently this was not uncommon at the time. How is Islam different in this regard then? [/quote]

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