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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]BTW the teachers union in NYC is amazingly powerful but even they don’t advocate for schedule disruptions/more “work days”[/quote]

Perhaps they advocate for better conditions in other ways: teaching fewer classes, a cap on the number of total students, a reasonable retake/retest policy, more dedicated planning time, fewer non-teaching duties, fewer meetings.

There are many ways to show support to teachers. [/quote]

And you’ve listed a few that aren’t at the expense of students. Pushing for more disruption and workdays, in addition to (clearly) alienating parents, also shows teachers as wholly out for themselves and not at all interested in whats best for their students— even when its things like missed meals, or whole days alone/unsupervised. Advocating a smaller classroom size at least has the appearance of recognizing that schools are supposed to care about students.[/quote]

Smaller classroom size means more teachers, which means more funding, which means higher taxes.  And the public already balks at that.  So, direct your anger at those who deserve it - everyone.[/quote]

The CBA isn’t making classroom size their issue, they’re making “planning time” their issue. They should focus on something that is better for students not clearly bad for students and families to benefit teachers.

Also, this schedule has higher costs for families. Higher costs spread across all of Fairfax is a lot saner than higher costs concentrated on households with children.

New Jersey has preferential hiring for residents into public jobs, that would be another change that would align teachers and parents better.[/quote]

[b]1- planning time benefits your child and you more than you think.  Teachers can be trained in new techniques, or ways to identify disabilities or answer you emails with more planning time.  They can grade papers and give more meaningful feedback etc, etc.[/b]

2- No teachers aren’t the ones pushing for this- it is coming from new curriculum initiatives and science of reading training.

3- If all you are concerned about is the amount you pay for camps, angle to get taxpayers to pay for school aged camp subsidies.  ACPS used to sponsor minicamps.  I”m going to bet you see that would be impossible, so instead you are choosing to pick on teachers who are the low hanging fruit for you.  A group of women who don’t have much power and dedicated themselves to trying to teach your kids should be easy for you to steam roll. It is very maddening that you have to pay for camps and can’t tell them what to do.[/quote]

You are hilarious if you think teachers in Greenwich don’t respond to emails, grade papers, etc. They just manage it without shutting down schools eight extra days every year. And their outcomes suggest their training is as good or better than what Fairfax gets.[/quote]

Their outcomes suggest they teach kids who were born on third base. I teach students who haven’t made it out of the dugout. [/quote]

And all the planning days off mean that those kids who “never make it out of the dugout” go hungry and unsupervised. It’s so nice to be able to fail at both ends of the economic extremes.[/quote]

Do you also worry about these children during the summer? Or is your concern only on teacher workdays?

Why aren’t you advocating for year-round school? Or summer programs to support these children? 
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There *is* summer programming to support these kids. There ARE summer opportunities for kids who qualify for FARMS. Thats why the shortened summer is so doubly problematic— it creates a bunch of random days where there is no support and it shortens the time where there is reliable, consistent support.

[b]Amazing that camp counselors, even at elite educational camps like Hopkins,  make it through whole months without taking random days off to “plan”.[/b][/quote]

Most camp counselors are glorified babysitters. If they are at an educational camp like Hopkins, I’m sure there is a curriculum that is given to them to follow lock, step and key. The kids that go to these camps are smart, well behaved. Absolutely no comparison to teaching in FCPS.[/quote]

NP- This is what we want from our school systems. We want curriculum for teachers and books for kids. We also want well behaved kids and that very badly behaved kids are removed/disciplined.

Instead we have no curriculum, no books, and nonstop laptop usage. Teacher planning days are stupid team building activities and workshops that teachers don't want or need.

Parents aren't against teachers. We're against the admins and school board.[/quote]

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