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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Nature is harsh. You can prepare and have all the experience and training and equipment in the world but when it becomes man against natural forces - be it fire, water, cold, snow - nature is stronger.

But there is also an incredible amount of reward for spending time in nature and reaping the benefits of the beauty and adventure. Is there a risk - of course. But life has risk and you only live one life. We can all die tomorrow. For those of us who aren't risk adverse, you accept the risk of nature and adventure just like you do every time you get in your car. [/quote]

This last bit is utter hogwash a bunch of you are regurgitating in one form or another. [b]This wasn't a time anyone was traipsing about enjoying nature. 
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[b]They chose to go out in terrible conditions when they shouldn't. [/b]They may have been worried if they didn't have enough food. Either they were arrogant or they were desperate. [b]The facts are what most of us want to know. [/b][/quote]

+ 1 million[/quote]

In the end, their judgement and decision turned out to be horrible for them.  I am not arguing that.  But people do make similar bad judgement call and nothing terrible happens to them.  They were not making a terrible moral decision that would kill other people - like waging war on others.  They took a risk with their own life and maybe 9 out of 10 times nothing bad would have happened to them.  Yes, bad lapse of judgement, bad luck, bad decision....

But, they did not deserve to die for this decision, their family did not deserve to lose them and we can still mourn for their senseless death.  It is still extremely tragic and it is heartbreaking to hear.  No one can argue with that.

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No one said they deserved to die. This is disingenuous just intended to create arguments. [/quote]

Exactly. Absolutely no one has said they deserved to die. Actually, I hope people learn from this because I’ve seen way too many preventable deaths that have destroyed families and didn’t have to happen.[/quote]
No, people won’t learn. That’s why we keep seeing these stories time and again. [/quote]

Yeah, you’re right. I don’t know why I continue to believe the human race might become less self destructive. [/quote]

Hubris, overly self-confident, thrill-seeking types[/quote]
These people are wealthy, successful and used to the world bending to their wants and needs. They don’t realize that Mother Nature marches to her own drumbeat.[/quote]

This thread contains so much speculation and judgment. I knew one of the victims. Not all of them were wealthy - they were a group of friends that met in college and shared a love of spending time in the outdoors, and kept in touch as a group though they were from various walks of life. My acquaintance (RIP and with love to her family, who is devastated) was highly experienced and risk-aware. Hopefully we'll learn more about the decision-making process (and until then, please stop speculating) but I doubt they didn't consider the avalanche risk. The slope that failed was not flagged by the Sierra Avalanche Center (no history of avalanches, lower slope angle - see the heatmaps on the incident website): https://www.sierraavalanchecenter.org/observations/#/view/avalanches/83ba330a-5eb4-446e-95b0-495c26faf06b[/quote]

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