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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I have trouble with theocracies of any form.  I know technically Israel is a democracy but religion is very much tied to who can become a citizen.  I don’t like that anywhere and for any religion.  I don't advocate for the dissolution of states, but I do advocate for the end of laws based on religion in my own country.  I do advocate for democracy everywhere.[/quote]

Jews are an ethnoreligious group. ALL countries give preference to their own people, however that is defined, in matters of immigration and citizenship. E.g., if you have Irish ancestry you will have an easier time becoming an Irish citizen. Not for nothing, but you’re going to have a hard time becoming a citizen of basically any Muslim-majority country (with a few exceptions) if you’re not Muslim.

Israel is also somewhat unique in that it was expressly founded as a refuge for Jews fleeing persecution. So it has historically prioritized Jewish immigration for that reason - not because of some kind of racial/religious superiority complex, as many people would have you believe.

Nevertheless, people of all religions are citizens of Israel and live there in relative peace and prosperity (I’m talking about Israel proper, not the Palestinian Territories). In fact, there are ONE HUNDRED FORTY TIMES more non-Jewish Arab citizens of Israel than there are Jews in the entire rest of the Middle East (2,100,000 vs. 15,000). They may face some informal social prejudice (like all minority groups everywhere) but are absolutely equal citizens in the eyes of the government, and enjoy full rights. [/quote]

no they don't- non jewish citizens are prohibited from purchasing property in large swathes of Israel just for starters. so they have "covenants" like we did in the US that bar non jews from acquiring property. there have been multiple court cases- in a very famous case- a family had purchased homes in the 1950s and an extremist group found out that the non jewish family had purchased the homes from jews in the 1940s and the Supreme Court of Israel forced the non jews out of the Homs and declared these illegal. they didn't even allow the non jews to sell the homes- they just took them and kicked them out b/c once a home is owned by a jeweler, it cannot be sold to a non jew.  I

no-one is goi ng to be ok either this sort of nonsense in this- the year of our Lord- 2025. if you have laws like this you cannot call yourself a western style democracy. there are other laws limiting non jewish citizens from having the same rights as jewishcitizens but the point is- theocracies are garbage.  religion is something you practice in the privacy of your own home. it should stay there.  [/quote]

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