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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]More educated parents and students aren't blindly following US News rankings any more. Since their last release was so heavily mocked and with availability of information about a school's outcomes and strength of majors and strength of students academic achievements, US News is a much more minor role player now than in the past. Parents look at the cost of the school, the name brand of the school, the SAT averages of the school, the acceptance rate of the school and the outcomes of the school a lot more than some outdated magazine. [/quote] All of which are contained in....the USNews rankings! 🙂 It's a likely "first stop" for parents with other research options later. It is what it is.[/quote] No, it's missing many important factors and Contain some insignificant factors such as how many Pell grant students. However it's still a nice reference for an initial screening. At the end every year, we get the actual result of the collective decisions by the students. The result is reflected in the combination of admission rate, yield rate, cohort quality, retention rate, and graduation rate. [/quote] That's why although USNWR removed factors like acceptance rate, parents and students pay good attention to it, and consider the competitive schools good schools in general. [/quote] All of the top 30 have either low or extremely low acceptance rates. [/quote] No, schools like UF, UVA, UCSD, UT have significantly higher acceptance rate than schools like Tufts, BU, Wake Forest, Northeastern, BC as students chose that way. [/quote] Acceptance rate can be manipulated (by inducing more applicants, most of the unqualified), so they correctly dropped it. It isn't the best indicator of true selectivity and quality of the enrolled student body.[/quote] Hence I said 1000 times the combination of acceptance rate, yield rate, cohort quality, retention rate, and graduation rate.[/quote] I would add Outcome. This is basically how the employers look at the schools which arguably the most important evaluation as they are the ones pay for the end products. Parents and students pay for the college services and employers pay for the college products. Money doesn't lie. [/quote] Agree that it would be good to add outcome but that's a lot harder to measure than admission and graduation stats.[/quote] One of the major source would be the data and information from the Department of Education. It's the direct result by the actions of the employers. Also these are at least better than the arbitrary magazine rankings. https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/ [/quote]
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