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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The vast majority of abortions are elective.

Birth control has become more reliable.

The same people who ignore ^^^ are trying to tell you unborn babies are not human and unborn babies are not alive. [/quote]

Please do not have an abortion if that is your choice.   Everyone will respect your decision.  Just stay out of this matter for other women.  It does not concern you.[/quote]

But it concerns you? [/quote]

As a woman of childbearing age who has 2 young DDs and also had to terminate an ectopic pregnancy, any laws that restrict access to potentially life-saving medical care for myself or (in the future) my 2 girls absolutely DO concern me.  Laws that have the potential to reduce the number of practicing OBGYNs concern me.  Laws that may reduce the ability of doctors to lean techniques like D&Cs (used for abortion, but also used to treat miscarriage and other common ailments) concern me.  These same people who want to restrict abortion are also coming after birth control and IVF, which concerns me.  One of my DDs was conceived via IVF.  They're targeting  "abortion" drugs like methotrexate, which saved my life and allowed me to avoid a potentially sterilizing surgical procedure when I had my ectopic, and is also used to treat a variety of conditions NOT related to pregnancy.

These extreme anti-abortion laws have ramifications above and beyond punishing women for sex.[/quote]

Are you the poster who is moving to Canada to ensure that her daughters can abort her grandchildren with ease?

This thread like all others on dcum concerning abortion has the following characteristics:

-multiple posters claiming an unborn baby isn’t human 
-multiple posters claiming an unborn baby isn’t alive
- multiple posters ignoring the fact they that the majority (98%) of abortions performed in the US are elective
-multiple posters with detail free anecdotes about themselves or friends
-a 10 year old child who was repeatedly raped by her mom’s boyfriend. The child’s mother knew about her daughter’s rape and the resulting pregnancy of her daughter by her pedo rapist boyfriend, and didn’t try to protect her daughter or have her rapist pedo boyfriend arrested.[/quote]

If you believe an embryo is alive and can sustain itself on its own, you have WAY bigger issues than this thread.

Here is the Born alive law from Congress (Republican backed) and the definition of alive:

[i] respect to a member of the species homo sapiens, means the complete expulsion or extraction from his or her mother of that member, at any stage of development, [b]who after such expulsion or extraction breathes or has a beating heart, pulsation of the umbilical cord, or definite movement of voluntary muscles, regardless of whether the umbilical cord has been cut[/b], and regardless of whether the expulsion or extraction occurs as a result of natural or induced labor, cesarean section, or induced abortion[/i]

No 10 week old embryo has a heart, much less a beating heart and if the umbilical cord isn’t connected to the mother, no oxygen.  There aren’t voluntary muscles that the embryo is in charge of yet. The heart isn’t really formed until 17-18 weeks of gestation.
AND
Babies can’t pass air through their lungs (breathe air) until after 23ish weeks.

Looks like multiple posters understand science and one poster is unable to process that.
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Human embryos from the one-cell (zygote) stage forward show uniquely integrated, organismal behavior that is unlike the behavior of mere human cells.  The zygote produces increasingly complex tissues, structures and organs that work together in a coordinated way.  Importantly, the cells, tissues and organs produced during development do not somehow “generate” the embryo (as if there were some unseen, mysterious “manufacturer” directing this process), they are produced by the embryo as it directs its own development to more mature stages of human life.  This organized, coordinated behavior of the embryo is the defining characteristic of a human organism.[/quote]

But dear, republicans in congress used another now legal definition. 
You are incorrect in your understanding. 
Many even most of these one called organisms you are calling alive unalive before they can be implanted in a moms uterus because of dna coding issues or any number of issues a
Woman has.

I’m sure some women would be happy to volunteer to give you our used tampons pads and Luna cups so you can collect these unimplanted embryos every month and bring them to life.[/quote]

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