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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Yes, show us your expenses and we’ll tell you how to live like a king.  Clean your own house, cut your own lawn, stop streaming multiple services, stop it with the daily Starbucks.  Bring your lunch.

What kind of car do you drive?  Do you vape?   Are you getting a new phone every year?

Stop keeping up with the Jones’s. [/quote]

Do you believe that having[b] a cleaning lady, lawn service, [/b]streaming and ability to spend $20 bucks daily on lunch/coffee signifies luxury extravagant lifestyle if one works full time in a professional job? It's funny you think this is extravagant and get mad at DINKs in professional jobs (IMO they should be easily able to afford these things) but there is no questioning of the sky-is-the-limit accumulation of wealth by the 0.1% who cannot even invent ways to spend their vast fortunes and buy enough luxuries you cannot even fathom.  The trickle down from the uber rich class is only in form of charity and based on their personal values and opinions.

Good peasant, be happy things we used to take for granted in middle class upper layers are going extinct and we will be sifted into rich and poor happy to work most of their time and take on education debt just to pay for basic life not being able to afford a cup of coffee, happy hour drinks or a movie ticket.  
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How many middle class families had cleaning ladies when you were growing up?[/quote]

Didn't know any.  That's the thing.  What most of us grew up with as MC did not involve McMansions, cleaning ladies, lawn service, etc.  We were our parents cleaning service and lawn service on Saturdays.  We lived in a 3 bed 1.5 if lucky 2.5 bath home.  And we ate out once every 2 weeks at a "cheap" place.

We didn't uber eats, dine out 3-4 nights per week, etc.

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I think the point of OPs post is that [b]they expected to live UMC life[/b], not MC on this money because at some point it did used to buy you UMC lifestyle.  You earn professional salary and you should be able to afford to outsource a few things to get some time off on weekends away from chores to get some social time with peers at happy hour, go to a few dinners and grow connections to lead to better jobs, etc.  It meant you had some disposable income (to dine a few times, to travel on the budget, to buy a few nice things like electronics, furniture and car that are not beat up, clothes that aren't all from deeply discounted or thrift stores, etc.  It's not an extravagant life. But it does require something is left after you paid your bills and put your retirement portion away.

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OP is UMC, but lower/starting UMC.  Upper class probably starts around 1M+ salary, so they're far from being able to be extravagant.[/quote]

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