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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Huge cultural chasm here. America does not have the same testing traditions you find in just about every other country in the world. Americans believe in never quitting more than they believe in winning. That's why footbalk teams that lose hard fought games get celebrated almost as though they won.[/quote]

The difference is every other country in the world has clear rule and transparency.

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Another difference is that America rewards persistence. Many other countries give you just one chance to measure up in life. Not so in the USA.

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Test measures persistence.  It's for 12 years of persistent education
Also they do reward persistence with sort of GPA together with Test

I don't care if you do GPA only Test only GPA + Test, GPA + Test + whatever.

The important thing is clear rule and transparency.

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the only thing you are asking for is how much was spent on making sure those scores were achieved. that's it. and not an amount, a percentage of income. if a 400k family spends 40k and an 80k family spends 8k its the same type of leg up, it is. 
I am so tired of test prep being a replacement for intelligence and capability. [/quote]

Same for GPA, ECs, Essay, etc.
I think test score is at least most objective and fair, so that disadvantaged intelligent and capable students get chance to compete.

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Standardized testing has racist origins in the U S (and was used to justify segregation in the military and schools)., is culturally biased ( "pre test" questions that were answered correctly by most blacks were thrown out), and today is more a reflection of household income , test prep, and superscoriing.

Not even close to objective.

Most of the 1,900 colleges that are now test optional will remain after the AA ruling.

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Yea math is very subjective and racist.

The current test blind/race blind school Berkeley has 3.4% Blacks.
 
Good?

Sorry Asian also score highest in ECs, Leadership, Interview, etc. etc. as revealed in Harvard case.

Test is still the most fair and objective for all students.

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A large reason why there are only 3.4% blacks at Berkeley has to do with the fact that those admitted have options to go elsewhere.  My black DC who didn't get admitted got into HYP and gladly will be going there.  Being one of only 10 blacks in a class of thousands obviously wouldn't be an attractive option either.  Most people don't like being the only "one" anywhere.  [/quote]

yea sure because many chose Howard over Berkeley
yea that's why Berkeley has 3.4% Blacks.

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California’s entire Black population is only 5.5%. OOO admittance to UC schools are as bad as OOO admittance to NC schools. Your 3.4% flex isn’t what you think it is. I know two kids from San Diego who were admitted to UCLA and chose Morehouse and Howard respectively.   Yeah I know it my anecdote, but it aligns with what the other poster wrote about her child choosing Harvard over Berkley. [/quote]

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