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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Study out shows that 1 in 4 college applicants are already removing colleges from consideration because of the politics going on in those states.  https://wreg.com/news/nation-and-world/one-in-four-college-applicants-avoids-entire-states-for-political-reasons/[/quote]

Visiting Florida now and there are guns all over the place.  People just strutting around with pistols on the hip like it is the wild west.  Yesterday heard gunshots on a quiet Sunday afternoon in a quiet little state park nature trail in an affluent area.  It it the worst.[/quote]

Really? I'd be curious where this is. Because while we now have permitless conceal carry here, open carry is still illegal. Unlike in, say, Virginia.[/quote]

^ And by "here" I mean Florida, where I live, and I've never seen people openly carrying. Granted I haven't been to every inch of the state so perhaps this is happening - illegally - in a part of the state I am not familiar with. Would love to hear more details about where you saw people open carrying, though. It is, again, illegal in Florida to open carry.[/quote]

The agitator won’t be back after being challenged. [/quote]

It was extremely agitating.  More than one person had pistol openly carried and at least one shot was fired.    There is a gun store every few miles.    Have you ever actually spent any time in Florida?  It's ridiculous.[/quote]

I live in Florida and open carry isn't legal here. There are a lot of gun stores, yes. But where did you see people wearing guns on their hips? Can you please tell me the name of the city or county? Because, again, it is illegal to open carry in Florida. I've seen it lots in Virginia, where it is legal, but never in Florida, where it is not legal.[/quote]

That person is a troll. As someone who lived several decades in FL and still visits regularly, I've never seen a gun in the wild. There was maybe one gun store/range within a 30 minute radius from my house. [/quote]

I am not a troll.  What planet are you folks on?  Look at the gun stores, the bumper stickers, the wild west show I saw on the gulf coast in just a 10 day visit.  I am literally looking at the newspaper right now and a front page story is discussing "Desantis quietly signing a more permissible gun law in a closed door gathering" last Monday.

IMO this is an NRA fantasyland and it clearly what you all want.  So as I said...enjoy.  not for me.[/quote]

That more permissible law is allowing permitless conceal carry. There's still no open carry. I am opposed to and worried about the conceal carry. But you do not ever see people in Florida wearing guns on their belt, the way you do regularly in Virginia.

But it does sound like Florida isn't for you![/quote]

NP...  Whether or not they carry it concealed or openly carry it on their belt, you have absolutely no idea whether that person is a "good guy with a gun" with training and responsible behavior, some complete spaz, a person with severe mental illness, or a felon who's already committed armed robbery.   No idea whatsoever, and NRA is pushing us more and more in that direction of zero knowledge, zero accountability, complete wild west.[/quote]

I am the PP and I agree. I was only responding to that one person who kept insisting she was seeing people all over Florida wearing guns on their belts. That's simply not happening.

Conceal carry is also very very scary and dangerous. Maybe even more so. I was going to say Florida is heading in some very scary and unsafe directions but I think we might already be there.[/quote]

I am done with the thread now after saying I did see open carry on a nature trail on the west coast. And heard the gunshot but did not see anyone shoot a gun as the natural habitat in this park Florida is dense vegetation.  Someone must have reported it because the sheriff showed up x2.   We got the he** out of there and don't plan on returning.  Enjoy your state.[/quote]

Oh I see - so you encountered a person illegally hunting, and then the sheriff came to stop them. That's not quite how you represented the situation before. Glad law enforcement was on top of this - poaching is no joke.[/quote]

Not illegally hunting.  The person spoke to us as if open carry was the most normal thing in the world.  I had seen the news about the new legislation and so thought the open carry was normal.  My bad.  But what is the effing difference at some point.   There are lots of guns in Florida and the culture is obviously aggressively pro gun.  I don't know why anyone living here would deny that reality.[/quote]

You were on vacation in one place, and spoke to one person. Please have the humility to know that you cannot possibly think you're equipped to draw broader conclusions.[/quote]

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