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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It is about time the police start releasing this type of info about their work.   Jawando and the anti police crowd have been controlling the entire narrative for the past three years, so when that's all people hear, they assume it must be true.   and it's not.    [b]good policing helps keep the community safe. [/b]  [/quote]

And bad policing does the opposite.[/quote]

You fix that by getting rid of bad policing.  Not by getting rid of all policing.   Wise use of pretext stops is great policing[/quote]

Nobody is proposing getting rid of all policing.

Pretextual stops - aka lies - are bad policing.[/quote]

I don't think you understand what pretext stops are.   They are perfectly legal.   [/quote]

They can be both: legal, and lies.[/quote]

Please explain how they are "lies."[/quote]

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pretext[/quote]

So pulling someone over for crossing the yellow line to figure out if they are drunk or not is a lie.   That's the only way police can get to DUI.   Someone has to violate minor traffic laws first. [/quote]

No, pulling someone over for crossing the yellow line is pulling someone over for crossing the yellow line. Which the bill would continue to allow. Driving erratically is a hazard, whether you're drunk or sober.[/quote]

OK, let me dumb this down a bit more.   Driving without headlights on is something drunk people do pretty often.  They forget to switch them on, and often don't notice because newer cars have running lights.  If an officer sees someone leave a bar or restaurant and not turn on their lights, the officer is going to follow them to see if they are drunk.  And in order to do further investigation, they pull them over for the failure to turn on headlights.   Pretext stop (falls under the bill) to determine whether the person is impaired.

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the bill specifically says "nothing in this subsection prohibits a police officer from67
conducting a traffic stop if the driver of a motor vehicle
does not have at least one lighted headlamp and one rear
lamp light displayed;"[/quote]

^^^I do feel like, if you're going to attack a bill for prohibiting something, you should first check to make sure that the bill would actually prohibit that thing.[/quote]

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