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You clearly don’t know policing. You realize they also respond to CALLS, correct? And that they aren’t running around pulling people over all day? Calls are way  up and officers are down. As for your “work stoppage,” it simply isn’t happening. I know many cops, and they are too busy doing their jobs and covering the shortages. Are they upset with the council? Yes, and rightfully so. If you have paid ANY attention to this council for the past couple of years, you would know that [b]the problems faced in recruitment and retention[/b] fall very heavily on the council and its vitriol toward the department.

And to say the Council is “eating it up”? Very mature. [/quote]

This is a US-wide phenomenon, it's not just Montgomery County. And at least part of it is due to the actions of police officers in the US, which have caused a reassessment of policing in general. [b]There can only be so much attention on so many bad cops [/b]before people start to wonder whether there's a systemic problem.[/quote]

That's the thing.    The media, particularly social media, take low probability/high consequence incidents and drive them into our eyes/ears/brains until it is the only reality we know.  And then we demand policy changes based on the cognitive distortion of imagined frequency.

1,000 deaths at the hands of police is horrible.   Every life matters.   But when put in context of the number of police contacts, which is 61 million per year across the U.S., that's 0.002% chance of death each time you encounter a police officer.

That's one in 2,000
Your risk of dying in a gun assault are one in 221.

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Excellent post. But I’m still waiting for someone to jump in with the “even one death is too many!” nonsense. [/quote]

The thing y'all don't want to admit is that the killings are just the most extreme example of disparate and abusive policing. Just because you don't get killed doesn't mean you haven't been harassed or worse injured by police. The people paid to protect you. That impacts a person and it happens a lot, including in Montgomery County.[/quote]

10 years ago, I would have believed in the possibility of this being true.  But cell phone and ring camera footage is so ubiquitous, we would have seen it.   People are out there taunting police, trying to get them to lose their tempers, so that they can film it and upload it.

There is no pervasive pattern of abuse or misconduct in MoCo.[/quote]

It depends on what you consider abuse or misconduct, doesn't it? Does disparate treatment, or low-level harassment, based on perceived race/ethnicity, count as misconduct? I think it does. Even I, a random white person with little contact with the police, have personally heard county police officers say bigoted things while speaking to the public in person as police officers (and no, not all of those police officers were white, and one of the police officers was a [i]community liaison[/i]). It's hard to imagine that those bigoted sayings don't represent bigoted beliefs that affect those police officers' behavior while policing.

And then there's the issue that, if police abuse or misconduct affects an individual personally, it doesn't matter that there's no pervasive pattern of it. Like the person is supposed to think, yay, a police officer policed me differently based on my race/ethnicity/whatever, but it's ok, there's no pervasive pattern, I just got unlucky?[/quote]

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