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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]All you folks talking about poorly behaved special needs kids are likely NOT parents of kids with unique needs, and you should consider yourself lucky.  Such holier than thou attitudes and a wholesale lack of empathy for kids.

No kid WANTS to behave that way.  Behaviors like that are expressing an unmet need.  Those kids are in a world a hurt and need support, possibly therapy or other tools.  It is not unlike a kid with dyslexia or even a physical disability.

Schools, SN kids, and resources were barely getting by pre pandemic and now we’ve got two years of no progress and more stress on everyone, especially those kids who were left behind.  And the learning loss amongst SN kids was far worse than most typical kids.

Rather than fault the kids, or the parents of those kids, start screaming at your school boards and their inane funding priorities.  Raise teacher salaries, invest in more SN instructional assistants and their training, more case managers and specialists.  Maybe something more than 1 BCBA for 25 schools would help… [/quote]

All people are saying is that those kids don't belong in the classroom with neurotypical kids.  It doesn't serve society well to help out one or two kids at the expense of 25 others.[/quote]

That is the fundamental gap.  They do belong in regular classrooms.  Remember back in the 60’s when kids in wheelchairs were sent to special schools, away from the “regular” kids?  Ruled unconstitutional.  Thank god for the ADA.  Same applies here hence the ‘least restrictive environment’ laws.  [/quote]

JUST STOP. NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT WHEELCHAIRS OR DYSLEXIA AND YOU DAMN WELL KNOW THAT.

So freaking disingenuous.  :roll: [/quote]

I don't think it's disingenuous. It wasn't long ago that physically disabled people could not access schools or other public resources., whether they were intellectually able or not. We can all agree that was wrong. Also, not too long ago, black people were not allowed to attend the publicly funded schools. Very wrong.

Now we are talking if kids who are disruptive/violent or special needs can attend school?

I don't want violence around my child, but where the distiction is made is impossible. Profoundly SN  kids do have schools here in DC. Kids who are traumatized/on spectrum/LD probably do belong in public school. Private has been the option for people who want their kids insulated.[/quote]

It’s really gross that some posters keep trying to insist that having violent or highly verbally disruptive kids in the classroom is the same thing as having a child in a wheel chair sitting there or good forbid a black child (?!!) in the classroom. There’s something really wrong with you if you honestly think that.

The distinction is clear - when the teacher has to literally stop classes to reprimand someone, try to keep them on task, chase them because they ran outside, evacuate all tye other kids in the classroom because a child is screaming or destroying things. Those kids clearly do not belong in the classroom. Kids who stop the teachers from teaching do not belong in the classroom. They are the kids we’re talking about.[/quote]

No one is saying they are the same.  I am a PP who made an analogy to kids with physical disabilities earlier.  Obviously they are not the same, but there are parallels.  There are shades of gray but the FACT is disabled kids have protections, which is a good thing. And disabilities present in more ways than physical.  So it is a fine line and no one size fits all approach as to which setting any particular kid should be in.  What I can tell you is a parent ad hoc volunteering in a classroom is NOT the best arbiter of all kids and where they should be placed.  There is an entire process for that involving the school, parents, and specialists.  Is it perfect??  NO.  But life is not perfect.

What’s disgusting is prior posters saying kids should be shipped off to special separate schools, and given “instruction” in their homes because god forbid (!)they be in the presence of other kids.  Gues what.  These kids will be adults one day and all live in a world together.  [/quote]

I am an adult, and no one throws chairs in my world.  Not at home, not at work.[/quote]

This is silly. Probably no one wets their pants or throws tantrums either. Children are different front adults.[/quote]

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