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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]1A) Harvard, Stanford
1B) Princeton, Yale, MIT
1C) Caltech, Duke, Penn, Columbia

2A) Dartmouth, Northwestern, Brown, UChicago, Cornell, Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore, Pomona
2B) UMich, Rice, Vanderbilt, Johns Hopkins, WashU, Notre Dame, Georgetown, UCLA, Berkeley, Wellesley, Bowdoin

3A) UVA, UNC, CMU, Emory, USC, Georgia Tech, Barnard, Carleton, Middlebury, Claremont McKenna
3B) BC, UT Austin, W&M, W&L, Vassar, Davidson, Haverford

There is some separation at the overall top now and a few of the LACs looked off grouping wise. Williams, Amherst, and Swarthmore are widely grouped together as the top LACs (and Swarthmore wins most of the cross admit "battles") and Pomona is similar out west.[/quote]

It's hard to really separate Harvard and Stanford from Princeton and MIT. Princeton is the premier undergraduate education, resources strongly centered on undergrads with a massive endowment, mandatory thesis, precept system, etc. and it's the best STEM ivy league school. MIT is the overall king of STEM and STEM has only become increasingly important in today's society. MIT also excels across the board in a variety of sciences and social sciences. The weak link to me is Yale.

For LACs, I never figured that Bowdoin was any weaker than Swarthmore or Amherst. But it also feels weird putting Bowdoin alongside schools like Northwestern and Dartmouth so I think 2B is right for it. B[b]ut I also think more of the top LACs do belong in 2B instead of 2A because I have a tough time imagining that a lot of people turn down Dartmouth and Brown for Amherst or Swarthmore.[/b][/quote]

Yield says more about marketing investment than education quality.  [/quote]

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