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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]From another thread:

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/coronavirus/dashboard/

"Been tracking 4 cases and higher at schools. Normally the list is only 10 to 20 schools long.

MCPS data 4/19/22 reported 812 new cases in the past 10 days and 313 active quarantines. At this time, 41% of MCPS schools (86 out of 209) schools have 4 or more infections and 17 have 10 or more infections in the past 10 days. (Note that last week and this Monday was Spring break, so the last 10 days is really just yesterday and today?)"[/quote]

As of 5:49 AM, 4/22, that number is slowly increasing.  1035 reported cases.

I know multiple people with covid right now.[/quote]

And not a single peep about virtual. We've finally achieved end game. Feels great to be in this spot.[/quote]

Mcps was clear all year that they would be ignoring Covid.   We have not come close to the end game.   [/quote]

You do you. From my POV, it's finally over. [/quote]

It’s far from over.  [/quote]

For you I suppose. For me, it's been over for quite a while, and it's great seeing other parts of society (schools, planes, etc.) getting on board with that.[/quote]

So you don't care at all if large numbers of people become sick at the same time? [/quote]

NP. Define "sick". Relatively few people are getting hospitalized these days.[/quote]

That's the point. The CDC has chosen to focus on hospitalizations, ignoring the fact that increases in cases have ripple effects everywhere through worker absences, student absences, and continued spread throughout the community. I have a teen sick with COVID right now. He is missing an entire week of school, assuming that he feels better next week, which at this point, we don't know, because he's pretty sick.  He will miss work all weekend, and all of us in the house run the risk of testing positive and missing more school and our work extending through next week.

You can pretend that cases don't matter, but each case disrupts more than just the life of the person infected.  [/quote]

Look, the point is that you cannot really "prevent" cases in the long run, you can only delay them. That's important if hospitals are getting overwhelmed ("flatten the curve"), but not otherwise. With the virus not going away, you will have to face the disruption of an infection eventually. The CDC has recognized this reality and therefore adjusted their metrics. I'm not sure why you think you know better than the CDC what's important.[/quote]

This is just flat out wrong.  Of COURSE we can prevent cases.  Not all of them, no, but some of them, perhaps even most of them, absolutely.  And even if  cases stay below hospital capacity, it still is important to prevent as many as possible.  Every infection with COVID, even the mild ones, increases your risk of major systemic damage from long COVID - brain damage, heart damage, lung damage, etc.  I would like to avoid it if at all possible, and certainly want to limit the number of times my family and I are exposed to that risk.

Incremental reductions (or increases) in risk absolutely matter and can have a large ripple effect (exponential spread, anyone?).  It's not black and white; our choices are not only the one extreme of total lockdown vs. the other extreme of no precautions/let 'er rip.

"Learning to live with COVID" doesn't mean "back to 2019".  We actually have to do the LEARNING part.[/quote]

But what tangible things are you proposing? You going to shut down our economy? Want us to be Shanghai?[/quote]

The PP said noting abut shutting down the economy or mandating any measures. I'm a DP, but I would guess that the PP thinks that living with COVID involves an awareness of the level of community spread and individual decisions based on personal risk about when to scale back risk or accept more. That might mean not eating in restaurants right now, when COVID is clearly spreading, or returning to wearing high-quality masks indoors if you haven't been, or being sure to test when you have symptoms to avoid spreading, or wearing masks and testing if you have been exposed, etc. Some of these are the other parts of the CDC guidance that are being conveniently ignored by many. These actions are inconsistent with the party line of being "done with COVID" but entirely consistent with living with COVID.

You can make decisions about what you want to do at any given time, but to do that, you need information about COVID risk, which is becoming increasingly difficult to come by in some areas. That's why watching cases is helpful because it gives us, as individuals, an idea of how likely we are to become infected. I have a child who is infected now, and he likely got it at an unmasked family gathering in a closed space that was very important to our family. We took the risk and he got COVID. If the likely place of transmission was an Olive Garden, I'd say it wasn't worth it.

The all-or-nothing thinkers on both sides can't see the benefits of the middle ground. The middle ground is how many of us view living with COVID and it involves personal adjustments that follow what risks are acceptable under the current circumstances. It might involve changing an indoor gathering to an outdoor party if there is substantial community spread and the weather is nice, or having your kid wear an KN95 at school if you are going to be seeing vulnerable grandparents. That's it. No lockdowns, no mandates. Just informed decision making that lets us live our lives with COVID circulating, with knowledge that we can't hide forever but at the same time, the risk of becoming infected are still uncertain (long COVID). [/quote]

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