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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]^Also, a lot of people blame W&M's decreasing stature on it's reputation as an all work-no play school for grinds. That was an actually positive thing, because it attracted the studious kids, made sure the dumb ones avoided the place, and increased the degree's value among employers. Schools like U. Chicago, Hopkins and Swarthmore are known to be far more demanding, filled with grinds and places where fun goes to die. All three of those schools have increased in stature greatly over the past 20 years. Because their reputation brought additional academic prestige, better students, better professors, and better employers to the school. Meanwhile W&M tried to become more like UVA, putting money into Greek Life and sports stadiums. The result was UVA-lite, at a higher cost than UVA, with a lower ranking, worse job prospects, worse professors, fewer resources, etc. etc. Plain mismanagement by the administration. Compare the reputation of the school among the older generations now in their 60s to those in their 20s today. The older generation thinks it's one of the best schools in the country for undergraduate rigor. The younger generation thinks it's an oversized middling liberal arts college similar to so many other oversized middling liberal arts colleges in the country today. [/quote] Ironically I feel as though Emory has similar identity issues but somehow figures it out and is highly ranked. [/quote] I think that Emory, Tufts, Rochester, Case Western, Brandeis and Boston University all need to step up their PR game. USC, NYU and Northeastern are outcompeting them. [/quote] NYU is in NYC and USC is in LA, the largest and most internationally recognized cities in the US. They are both rather large universities. They are attracting a very different type of student than the ones that you listed. Atlanta is growing city but not even the 10th most recognized city in the US. Rochester and Cleveland are both Rust Belt cities. They may undergo a revival but they are both rather drab cities to spend one's college years. Tufts is near Boston and I agree that they could probably up their ranking game. I don't see why Rice and Tufts would be separate by 10 spots considering they are very similar schools. Boston University has already made great strides in academic reputation and popularity and still continuing on its upward trajectory. It was largely considered a mediocre commuter school for a very long time, similar to NYU in the 1970s. Today it is globally considered a great academic research institution. That fact has been reflected in the rankings and applications to the school as well, with an acceptance rate of 20%.[/quote]
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