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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think the OP is talking about those who come to her part of the world to "convert us."  I don't thinks she's talking about the ones who just duig wells, provide medical services and, you know, spread the love.  [u]So to stay on topic [/u] the responses should be about those missionaries who try to spread the word, tell the people how to obtain eternal salvation and so forth.    [/quote]

[b]Does “spreading the love” mean encouraging indigenous people to “let go” of traditional beliefs? [/b]

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you should ask the person who said that.  I don't think anyone really believes that's all missionaries do.  [/quote]

[b]Is that ok for any missionaries to do? [/b]
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It depends on what you believe I guess.  The missionaries in Hawaii got the females to cover up their toplessness because the Bible (from the midd-east) deemed it immoral.  Is that ok with you?[/quote]

The missionaries shouldn’t have been there in the first place. 
They certainly shouldn’t have have forced any changes to local traditions & customs & religion. 
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At the same time, some local traditions would have prevented them from catching up to the modern times.
They needed to learn to read and write, do away with the custom of walking topless and the taboo of men and women eating together.
A new century was on their doorstep and they needed the skills to navigate it in order to survive as a people[/quote]

“Local traditions” in the Hawaiian culture included the abandonment/exposure of infants deemed “defective.”  Also the maintenance of a caste system that included a slave caste others considered disgusting. Incestuous marriages among the elite, death penalty inflicted at whim by the ruling class, and human sacrifice were also traditional practices.

In other parts of the world, “traditional practices” to this day include “honor killings,” forcible concubinage, involuntary servitude, and the murder of homosexuals, among other things.

The notion that “traditional practices” represent some sort of divine Eden that must never be interfered with is juvenile and ill-informed at best. [/quote]

None of that justifies missionaries from forcing themselves and their beliefs on the Hawaiian people.

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I wonder how you feel about authorities and governments “forcing themselves and their beliefs” on practitioners of FGM in the modern age. [/quote]

Local governments have the authority to change their own communities.

Foreign people trying to play "savior" don't.

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DP. The Uighers in China have zero authority to change their plight. I wonder if you’re as concerned about them and, if so, where is your DCUM thread on it?

Meanwhile, people being visited by missionaries can always say “no.” Or they can say “yes” for as long as it takes to get the medical care or get the well built, and then they can say “no” again.

Seems to me you have the relative burdens mixed up. [/quote]

The last thing the Uyghurs need is for missionaries to go "help" them.  :roll:

They don't need a bible. They need a powerful country like the US to use diplomatic pressure to force China to stop oppression and genocide.

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