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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think Whoopigate is highlighting a number of tensions in our current divisive time where many people feel like certain groups/issues must compete for “who has it the worst.” We’re getting bogged down in purist definitions of race precisely because some don’t want to equate antisemitism with racism…as if one is worse than the other. Guess what? They are both equally bad. Saying Judaism is just a religion like Catholicism, etc. really misses the mark. Most Jews are born into not only the faith, but a Jewish culture that includes a language, foods, and a way of life. Muslims should understand. While anyone can convert, that’s not the same as being born into a Jewish family. [/quote] I was born into a Jewish family. Not at all genetically Jewish. Not one person would know. [/quote] I’m not sure what you mean. Do you mean you don’t look Jewish? Or, your Jewish parents converted or someone along the family tree converted and you don’t have any genetic Jewish heritage? FTR, my comments aimed to highlight that for most Jewish people, it’s not just a religion. Rather, Judaism comes with a language, food, clothing, and other cultural elements that Christian religions simply don’t have. I don’t think Judaism is a race per se. But there certainly is a robust cultural and identity element that Christian religions don’t have. I stand by my original comment that the 2022 divisive nature of most people who are quick to argue and compelled to point out that nothing is as bad as racism is driving some of this. Whoopi herself succeeded at minimizing or at the very least missing the mark when it comes to not only holocaust but also the antisemitism that still exists today. [/quote] Well, you see, by your own comments, that Judaism cannot be nailed down genetically. I grew up speaking Yiddish and Hebrew, my grandparents were all immigrants, several of my aunts and uncles,too- and raised my parents my in an orthodox home. I was raised in a conservadox home-in a heavily Jewish neighborhood, kosher, all Hebrew schooling, day school and camps, bat mitzvahed, I probably can tell you anything you want to know about Judaism. All my relatives are similar, heavy concentration still in Israel. I am: 80 ish% British /Irish 20 ish% Swedish 0% Ashkenazi, Mizrahi, Sephardic or anything genetically linked to Judaism. Are you going to tell my children they aren't Jewish? My grandchildren? I think they will tell you differently. You talk about culture- the food, the language, the clothes, the music, etc. I'm all that. All that- since birth. I can translate any Yiddish joke for you, and yet I have zero bloodline...and if you met me tomorrow you would have no idea unless I told you. What are you going to tell the genetically linked Ashkenazi whose father was Jewish, but not the mother? Because- technically they aren't Jewish either. So what is it? The brisket or the bloodline? The way they look? How religious? Whoopi isn't the only one confused. You can see how literally very few people even understand this concept of Judaism, race, and ethnicity. [/quote] It's up to you how you want to identify. I have a friend with a similar background to yours and she does not consider herself Jewish. It certainly is confusing. [/quote]
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