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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Straight up here. Not joking. I am very ignorant in this area. I was educated in the south, didn't know a Jewish person until I was 40 years old (now over 50) I thought Jews were conidered white. I had no reason to think otherwise. I mean of course I knew the horror of the holocaust, but I always thought it was PRIMARILY about religion and Hitler's goal to create a master race.[/quote] A master Aryan race with blonde hair and certain features which were opposite of traditional Jewish features. Hitler wasn’t religious. The holocaust wasn’t a religious crusade. Much like modern times, an evil person thirsty for power manipulated the masses by othering an easily identifiable minority group. [/quote] Again seriously asking…aside from Hitler’s goal, why are the Jewish features considered not white? Or rather is there something wrong with those features being put in the same box with white people? Do Jews not want to be in the same box as white people? I seriously don’t know and I have asked these questions before on DCUM and got shut down. I have googled a lot of this and gave up because it was indeed a rabbit hole that I couldn’t commit to. I mean clearly most white people think it’s great to be white, and in most cases it it, and they (white people) absolutely, positively, would never ever want to be anything but white. I’m black, but would never, ever want to be white, but if I could PASS for white, to get the privilege that being white sometimes hands you….hmmm maybe. So again, because I don’t personally know many people that have identified themselves to me as Jewish, I don’t really clearly identify Jewish features. I mean see Jewish celebrities on TV and have heard people talk about “Jew fro” but that’s it. I know I must sound terribly ignorant on this, but I also don’t think this mindset would be out of the ordinary for African Americans educated in the south in 70’s about Jewish people. [/quote] Nazis CAN identify Jews, or at least a great many of them. If you go on white supremacist websites, there are detailed descriptions and instructions on how to identify Jews based on certain facial features. I'm Jewish and can usually identify Jews as well. It is not a matter of frizzy hair and hooked noses; it can be far more subtle. [b]"White" Jews also have a specific tone to their skin. When I was a child, the mean girls at school called me "green". Anti-Semitic conspiracy theorists refer to Jews as "reptilian" for a reason.[/b] I can't speak for all "white" Jews, but no, I do not want to be white. I am white to most people, and I do benefit from white privilege. I do not want to be white simply because I am tired of being defined by others based on what will best justify their hatred. For a long time, people --not just Nazis-- saw Jews as non-white, and that was one of many ways they justified their Anti-Semitism. Now, people define Jews as white because whites are privileged oppressors. So when I fill out forms I usually tick off "other" and write in "Jewish". [/quote] The bolded is absurd. You don't have a specific 'tone' that is green, you have olive skin. Some olive skin looks sallow if they haven't been out in the sun in a while. Some people have darker olive skin, others lighter. Jews range from the palest white to dark olive. [b]This might depend on whether your ancestors were from Germany (pale with blue eyes) or closer to the Mediterranean (olive skin and brown eyes).[/b] Because Judaism is a religion and an ethnicity. [/quote] This will probably blow your mind but I have pale olive skin and green eyes. It's not as black and white as you seem to think. Anyway, my Jewish ancestors immigrated to the US from Germany but they certainly weren't native to Germany. [/quote] Where did they originate?[/quote]
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