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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Is it legal to force sterilize someone?[/quote]

Brittany is not sterilized and yes it's legal to make medical decisions for someone who can not.

Might I chime in here even though i'm sure many people might not like what I have to say, and of course i might be totally wrong because i don't know Brittany and he actual medical condition. None of us can know.

My mom is seriously mentally ill. I feel if you don't know someone with mental illness it's hard to understand or relate to things that seem uncalled for or inhumane.

Severely mentally ill people can not care for themselves or others. Many have anosognosia where they are in denial or don't know that they are ill. My mom has anosognosia she is 64 years old and for my entire life of 37 years she has been been trying to convince everyone around her that she is fine. She believes that she is fine and the world is out to get her. It brings her such agony and distress. She 100% believes she is fine and everything is against her and necessary. She had been in a  conservatorship under her mother for  36 years.

With medication she can be more functional. However with anosognosia the sufferer doesn't think there is anything wrong with them and it's a cycle of fighting for freedom, obtaining it, then not caring for themself and going off their meds and then ending up in a terrible state back in a mental facility on heavy drugs like Lithium and then released and so on. My mom managed to get her freedom in my lifetime 6x. It's all she ever talks about and when she has it, it becomes a quick downward spiral every single time.  At times she can be very convincing. She can not be on her own. Mental illness can not be cured, and she will never get better, and she will never have the freedom she desires. When she is on her own she is a danger to herself and others around her.

This is sadly her life.

There were times when she wanted more kids and all of that and she was not allowed to because she could not care for me and she could not care for herself. She left me unattended, and would put my life directly in danger many times. Sometimes she was violent, sometimes she was neglectful, and sometimes she was delusional.

Not allowing Brittany to have kids might be in the interest of the kid that she could not take care of. with someone in the public eye like Brittany it would just be such a scandal and such medical negligence to put her on something as strong as lithium if she didn't need it, to take custody of her children away, and etc.

But again what do we know. Maybe it is all one big scandal.

Maybe her dad is taking advantage of the situation how can we know, but it's important to keep in mind that there might be more to the situation than we know.

Even if she isn't being mishandled I feel very badly for her. I know that my mom suffers everyday thinking the world is against her, being forced on meds she doesn't want and thinks she doesn't need, having her life controlled pretty much for the most of it. But if this didn't happen she would be on the streets, or maybe hurting herself or someone else unintentionally.   [/quote] +100000000 people have no idea what severe mental illness looks like or the steps families go through to keep someone safe from themselves. To the outside world the person looks normal or not that bad but to the loved ones who witness it, it’s truly heartbreaking. I don’t know Brittanys situation but what you’ve articulated is very similar to our family’s experience. [/quote]

I’m also in this camp, with 3 decades of experience under my belt working with mentally ill people ranging from highly functional to barely functional. My concerns about Britney were raised in reading the transcript of her call with the judge and I assume hearing it would only confirm my suspicions. Her thinking is erratic and it’s very easy to see the holes in her narrative where EVERYONE is against her, from therapists to doctors to lawyers to all her whole family to all the members of her performance team - how do people not see that this isn’t normal thinking?

I worry she has a boyfriend who is just itching to help her spend her fortune into nothing on drugs and a wastrel lifestyle, where she was heading before the conservatorship began. If I was that judge, I would remove dad and put a whole new team in place, issue orders that Britney doesn’t have to work anymore and can get her IUD out and have a baby and get married (with reasonable prenup in place) and have an increased allowance but not unfettered access to her entire fortune. Then she where she is in a year. I suspect she’ll still assert that everyone is against her and at this point she might also have crippling PPD on top of her other mental health issues because women with serious mental illness are at much greater risk of such.

Honestly, if I was her age and had her diagnoses (lithium is only prescribed for serious mental illness such as bipolar depression) and I already had two children, I wouldn’t be jumping at the bit to roll the dice on bringing another kid into the world. The inheritability of bipolar is still a matter of some scientific debate, but the repeated occurrence in families has a great deal of anecdotal evidence establishing that if one parent has bipolar a child has a 10% chance of having bipolar themselves. That’s a high risk for a crippling illness.

I feel sorry for Britney. This conservatorship definitely needs reviewing but I don’t doubt the basis for it was legitimate, and she’s apparently so impaired it took her 13 years to grasp that she has the power to request it be dismissed - I don’t believe for a second that her lawyer hasn’t been telling her that, I think she’s just resisting all the harsh realities about how she has to be evaluated to establish her competency.

People who think they’re championing Britney - I think you aren’t grasping that without her fortune she’d just as likely end up vagrant on skid row as the many folks with serious mental illness who are there already. And if she gets unfettered access to her entire fortune and doesn’t kill herself with drugs, it’s entirely possible that her boyfriend and other bad influences will help her into bankruptcy and she ends up there anyway. [/quote]

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