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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Since most Americans, including Democrats and black Americans, are in favor of voter ID requirements, what is it that those who are pushing against voter ID requirements are angling for? [/quote]

Great question.[/quote]

It isn’t being done in good faith. It is intended to suppress black and Latino and young voters. It may look neutral to you but the people pushing it know that their state and local election officials will always apply rules more strictly to obstruct black voters. They will make it harder for some people to get the required IDs or to update IDs and they will continue to put up other obstacles to suppress black votes, e.g. rigging precinct size, location, capacity, staffing to ensure long lines and waits. These racists cannot be trusted to enforce election laws fairly and equally. They have no intention of doing so. This is not targeted at fraud. It is targeted at depressing turnout among certain types of eligible voters. [/quote]

So this is about what you FEEL their goals are. There's a whole lot of hypothesizing and impugning motives in these discussions. There are many states that require voters to have ID that are not Republican led states. [/quote]

DP.  I have not seen one reason for voter ID laws backed up with evidence for their necessity on this thread.  It’s ironic that you are so dismissive of FEELINGS because that’s the only reason you want voter ID.[/quote]

Countries all over the world require voter ID. Are they all paranoid? Services and purchases of all kinds require ID. Should the US stop with all the nonsense? [/quote]

Countries all over the world make it EASIER for their citizens to vote — with national holidays, automatic registration, and expanding rather than reducing different voting options.  “All kinds”?  Wow! If you’re going to argue for the relevance of your point, generalizations such as “all kinds” and unspecified “nonsense “ really aren’t helping.

This is starting to feel like trying to get sense out of Tucker Carlson: unsupported opinionated generalizations that are trying to masquerade as genuine arguments when, really, they’re more like entertainment. [/quote]

From two pages back. I suppose you can choose to hop on a 17 page thread without reading anything that came before, but it makes one look like an ass. Allow me to spoon feed you:

You need ID to cash a check.
You need ID to buy alcohol.
You need ID to buy tobacco.
You need ID to buy a gun.
You need ID to get into many govt buildings.
You need ID to get onto secure federal property.
You need ID to rent or buy an apartment or home.
You need ID to get on a plane.
You need ID to get a library card.
You need ID to buy a fishing license.
You need ID to open a bank account.
You need ID to receive govt benefits like WIC and EBT.
You need ID to apply for a job.
You need ID to buy or rent a car.
You need ID to go into any school building in the country.
You need ID to get medical treatment.
You need ID to apply to colleges.
You need ID to get into a many bars/clubs.
You need ID to get into many community centers / pools
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I read it the first time. It’s still inaccurate. You clearly know quite a lot about what “makes one look like

an ass”: ignorant and stubborn are an unfortunate combination. [/quote]

DP here. Actually, I do have to show an ID to do each of the above listed, although I don't purchase tobacco or guns. In those places where an ID is not required for the above, I can see how individuals who are in this country illegally or those who've committed crimes would find it easier to seek refuge there.[/quote]

That may be true for you. Actually it’s arguable that for older people,  people in rural areas or small towns, people who have lived in the same area for long periods of time, people whose families have lived in the same area for long periods of time.... it would be even more likely for someone new or unknown to have difficulty functioning — because it would be quite clear that they were not a local resident.

I’m not arguing that no one ever needs an ID to do those things. I’m arguing that there are people that don’t do many of the things on that list and don’t need a government ID for the ones that they actually do need to do.  And further, that this is just a distraction from the issues surrounding the current push for certain kinds of Voter ID requirements.  Someone in an earlier post  has already described some excellent examples of how this might work in small towns and areas where the population is not very transient.

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