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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If you “normalize” the test scores As part of a holistic admissions process how is that unfair? If anything it is an attempt to make it fair.

A 34 ACT and 104 weight GPA from one kid with every advantage in the world vs a 30 ACT and a 98 weighted GPA with every disadvantage in the world which is bigger accomplishment? [/quote]
Except that's not what a holistic admissions process entails.

The exact opposite in fact. A white kid with every advantage in the world and a 30 ACT and 98 weighted GPA with legacy and/or donor status will get in over an Asian kid with no advantages and a 34 ACT and 104 weighted GPA. [/quote]

Most white people have a lot different views on test scores alone. I went to a top 10 high school in the United States. I worked all throughout HS. Junior and Senior Year I worked at our main branch of public library. My school had a free bus to library. Every day from 3:30 pm to 6:30 pm our small Asian population in students were there studying. Also a large percentage of the Jewish students. I knew they had SAT tutors, tutors in classes, worked as a group and helped each other out. None played sports or had jobs. School was their focus.

Out football team was nearly all black or white Catholic (Irish/Italian/German) as was most sports teams. Parents of the black and white kids would do vacations, join pool clubs in summer, kids either full time in summer.

I honestly in 10th grade had a NY Times route before school, was on track team, got home 630 pm, ate dinner, helped with chores till 8ish then attempted some home work for 30 minutes at most. In 11 and 12 grade had a 20 hour a week job. My parents never asked about school, made us lunch, never went up to HS. Heck my friends with richer non Asian or Jewish dads childhood was going to football games, playing sports, sleepaway camp and Disney. The poorer Black kids life at home widely dysfunctional and school was not a priority. Also TV always on at my house growing up.

Even my poor Asian friends recall going to dads store with book after school, going to Chinese cram school in summer, extra money was spent on school.

So basing admittance solely on SAT and GPA is biased.

As an adult my “book education” is not as strong as most of my Asian counterparts. But I have A lot more overall knowledge, maybe from watching 20 hours a week of TV, maybe from watching sports, maybe from going to 100s of Rock concerts, maybe from my skills of repairing cars. Who knows. But I have a lot of knowledge, just not book knowledge.

I was at a board meeting in Asia of a German company, was not saying much, all at once one board member had a love of 1980s music, this was in after party. I just asked his favorite bands, he was shocked i knew them All and saw most of them in concert and had the records. Another board meeting almost won bowling trophy. So why should Harvard judge on one skill set?

My daughter who got into honors at top colleges is smart enough to know that I could afford a house in a great school district, got her ACT tutor and allowed her to focus on school alone, it is not a big accomplishment.

A big accomplishment is my genius older brother on basketball team, with a job in HS and being man of house after Dad died getting Strsight As [/quote]

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