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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The level of denial in this thread is astounding.    People are really arguing that obesity is not linked to health problems?[/quote]

People are not arguing that here.

They are arguing that most efforts to lose weight, especially when accompanied by shaming, tend to backfire. Therefore -- and this is the point you are missing -- you should stop doing counterproductive things and try to find methods that are actually productive. [/quote]
I’m not advocating for shaming at all.    Stop projecting[/quote]

Not that pp, but I am curious to know exactly what you’re advocating because it isn’t clear to me. You think that fat people don’t realize they are fat and need that to be pointed out to them?[/quote]

No I’m saying that there are people who take the HAES movement/body positivity movement and convince themselves that being obese is healthy.   It’s not.  It’s one thing to promote self-esteem/loving yourself /treating others with respect.    It’s another to say being fat is not detrimental to your health.[/quote

Eh, fat people aren’t stupid. They know they’re fat. Some have chosen not to put their energy into losing weight.  They have accepted that they are fat and that isn’t going to change for them.  It takes willpower, determination and work to get the weight off. That isn’t something that you can do for another person. They need to want it and they need to make it a top priority for themselves - day in, day out for months or years at a time. If they prefer to put their energy elsewhere it’s understandable and I don’t judge them for it.  Let them enjoy their lives, let them feel good about all of their many other accomplishments.  hyper focusing on their weight is not inspiring nor is it helpful. [/quote]
A quibble: they’ve perhaps lost weight a dozen times on some truly draconian diets. Metabolism being what it is, a body wanting to be at what it regards as homeostasis, to protect itself from starvation, and any slippage from said draconian diet means you’re right back to where you were, with a few more pounds. 90% of people who have lost weight gain it back. So better just to learn to love where you are and make the healthiest choices possible. (Perhaps we’re saying the same thing but it kind of sounds like you think many choose not to lose weight because it’s too hard; they can, but their diet to maintain the weight loss isn’t like a regular thin person’s diet.

Also there’s some evidence that part of what causes obesity is that the body begins to regard itself as being in a state of starvation and thus considers itself as needing to store energy).[/quote]

Yep. I know. My body wants to weigh more than is healthy for me.  I either accept that and deal with type 2 diabetes , chronic knee pain etc or I do whatever it takes to get down to a healthier weight. I’ve lost and regained before and it sucks. I have also learned that zig zagging my calories and eating low sugar is the ticket for me. I do a combo if keto and intermittent fasting. I tend to eat more calories on the weekends.  Maintaining is way easier than calorie deficit so I am dead serious about maintaining now.

It’s a lifestyle and a mindset. Until you accept your body and what it takes to lose/maintain weight, you will be in that cycle of losing, eating like “normal “ people and then regaining.   You have to accept that the rules may very well be different for you. 
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