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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The original question was "Is UVA a prestigious college?"  The definition of prestige through Google is:

Widespread respect and admiration felt for someone or something on the basis of a perception of their achievements or quality.
"he experienced a tremendous increase in prestige following his victory"

Using this definition, the word "widespread" is perhaps the biggest question mark. [/quote]

It is a fine definition. Using it, I think "perception of achievements or quality" is the biggest question. Quality is entirely relative and often subjective. If we mean quality in line with other R1 AAU universities, then no doubt I agree. But, the UVA boosters seem to insist on trying to hold themselves above others in that category.

It is funny, because I have sided with them when they are arguing with the "only Ivies will do" crowd. Then they turn around with he same elitist drivel directed at other excellent state universities.[/quote]

Yes.  Some dismiss any slights as jealousy of the superiority of UVA, but then UVA supporters assail other schools and they think that is OK.  What is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.[/quote]

[b]STEM has been UVA's achilles heel at least historically.  I had a friend in grad school who graduated from MIT.  His sister was attending UVA and when I said that's a good school, he said "well, it is a 'soft' school".  I took that to mean he didn't have a strong view of engineering, math, and science.  Perhaps he meant UVA didn't push people, though.   I didn't clarify.[/quote][/b]

Not true today.  Try getting in as an aerospace engineer or any other engineering program.[/quote]

I think he meant it from a quality and rigor perspective, not from a selectivity standpoint.  [/quote]

I know UVA has put focus on this and is making progress, but you also have to look at the extensiveness of the STEM programs at some of these state schools to understand.  There are something like 22 undergraduate public engineering programs ranked as high or higher than UVA in USNews.  When you get up to Berkeley, Michigan, Illinois, GT, Purdue, Texas, they really are quite colossal enterprises.  [/quote]

The schools you cited can hold their own against almost any of the private programs (another counter to the weird DCUM narrative that schools like Michigan and Berkeley can't compete with Ivy League schools).

Undergrad Engineering Rankings:

1- MIT
2- Stanford
3 - Berkeley
4 - CalTech & Georgia Tech (tied)
6 - UIUC & Michigan (tied)
8 - Carnegie Mellon & Purdue (tied)
10 - Cornell
11 - Princeton & UT (tied)

UVA is #34[/quote]

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