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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]it's all layed out here.  Basically each applicant gets ranked in four categories on a scale.  Academic, extracurricular, personal, and athletic.  Harvard wants top people in each category and ideally top people in multiple categories.  Also, top academic kids are a dime a dozen.  You need top academics plus at least one of the other criteria.

The ratings also indicate that applicants who are highly rated on non-academic dimensions
are much scarcer than applicants with a high academic rating. Exhibit 5 shows that about 42% of
applicants have an academic rating of 1 or 2, while fewer than 25% of applicants receive a 1 or 2 on
each of the other three profile ratings. Applicants with a rating of 2 or better on at least three
dimensions are even rarer—just 7% of the applicant pool. These data indicate that high ratings on
Ratings Combination
Number of
Applicants Admission Rate
Candidates who Excel on One Dimension
1. Academic rating of 1, no other 1s 663 68%
2. Extracurricular rating of 1, no other 1s 453 48%
3. Personal rating of 1, no other 1s 41 66%
4. Athletic rating of 1, no other 1s 1,340 88%
Multi-Dimensional Candidates
5. Three ratings of 2, one rating of 3 or 4 9,266 43%
6. Four ratings of 2 622 68%
Weaker Candidates
7. No ratings of 1 or 2 55,981 0.1%
CONFIDENTIAL Page 29
non-academic dimensions (and particularly on multiple non-academic dimensions) distinguish
applicants in the pool much more effectively than a high academic rating.

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https://projects.iq.harvard.edu/files/diverse-education/files/expert_report_-_2017-12-15_dr._david_card_expert_report_updated_confid_desigs_redacted.pdf

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This document is such an eye opener to someone who has elementary aged kids. The emphasis on non-academic traits is fascinating. It isn't enough to have the highest test score and GPA. Harvard really is looking for well rounded students. Instead of sending my kids to academic enrichment camps, maybe I need to send them to drama camp, have them specialize in a sport, or start a business. 
I really thought it was enough to be the highest academically achieving kid, and it just isn't.  It is only one out of four categories Harvard is considering. If this document lays out is the criteria for accepting students, I don't see how they can lose.[/quote]

Harvard is looking for self-confident extroverts who might end up rich/famous/powerful/influential one day.  That hasn’t changed much though they’re placing their bets somewhat differently than they used to.  They’ve got other institutional goals as well (e.g. diverse student body, happy undergrads, alumni donations), but well-rounded isn’t a big plus.  Just different ways to stand out.[/quote]

Say what you will it's all listed there.  Main point is still the same.  Getting near perfect SATs are a dime a dozen.  Have high SAT and be confident and be president better founded a club and captain of a sports team..... shoo in[/quote]

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