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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Unless there is a medical reason (at birth) or [b]religious belief[/b], I recommend against it.  Although more problematic and/or painful later in life, circumcision can be elected by the male if needed or desired.  Children are NOT property and parents should NOT be the ones who change the body God/Nature has provided in their child-- unless imminent for health/quality of life.  I was circumcised shortly after birth-- wish I had been left intact.  There are pluses and minuses with respect to health, sexual pleasure and other factors-- but parents, PLEASE LET YOUR SON DECIDE-- not you.[/quote]

Why does this make it okay?[/quote]

Because beliefs about God are important to human culture?  Geez, I didn’t circumcise our son, but please. [/quote]

So you're cool with families that circumcise their daughters because it's part of their religious beliefs? Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. It can't be OK to circumcise one gender because religion without also being OK to circumcise the other because religion.[/quote]

I’m “cool” with people doing minor surgical procedures that do not significantly impair genital function in the name of their religions, though I do not choose to do those procedures on my own children.  There is a wide range of female circumcision practices, some of which I would not be “cool” with.  I’m not sure why it’s so difficult to not be so black-and-white and my-way-or-the-highway about this.  [/quote]

You're right, there is a wide range of female circumcision practices -- many people don't know that. The World Health Organisation has a classification system:

http://who.int/reproductivehealth/topics/fgm/overview/en/

So you're OK with the ones short of total infibulation? It would be OK with you if people believe that they should excise the clitoral hoods of their daughters, a la Type Ia (removal of the clitoral hood or prepuce only), for religious reasons? That shouldn't significantly impair genital function.

The WHO -- and the U.S. for that matter -- have a zero tolerance policy for even the mildest forms of female circumcision that are at least structurally analogous to male circumcision, although the male prepuce is much larger than the female prepuce so removing it results in a much more significant alteration of structure and function.

I am pretty much black and white when it comes to human rights. Baby boys don't deserve any less protection or consideration than do baby girls.  [/quote]

I really don’t care to sort through the typology of circumcisions and give you a list?  Some are okay, some significantly impair function.  Again, I choose not to circumcise my sons but find you really effing obnoxious.  The male circumcision practiced in the US is not an important “human rights” issue in my book.  You’re one of those self-righteous people who’d probably have been a zealous missionary in another era.  [/quote]

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