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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] I am finding that a lot of parents on this forum think that the most important thing for their high SES kid is to be in a classroom with poor black children so they can feel good about their diverse and progressive choices. it matters not if the majority of their classmates are two grades behind and the teachers is teaching down to the entire class, it matters not that there are often very significant behaviral problems from kids who come from high poverty/transient kids who witness abuse and neglect daily. I don't get it. At some point, I want my kid to be challenged academically in a safe and relatively calm environment, I don't want her around 5 and 6 years old screaming "F you" and the N word at each other (and yes I see that almost daily on the playground near the school). I am will put my kids needs ahead of my own progressive/liberal utopian dreams if thats what I have to do. Other parents believe their kids needs to learn "resiliance" in urban schools which is insulting in and of itself.

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No, that is not what "a lot of parents" on this forum think. The most important thing for me is that my child goes to a school that is meeting her needs. I was not and continue not to be willing to decide that a school cannot meet her needs because there are many poor black children who attend the school. Everyone wants what's best for their kids.

I'm sure that your experience of the children who are several grade levels behind who also have significant behavioral problems and come from high poverty homes who are abused and/or neglected regularly is valid, since why on earth would you make something like that up, but I will say that my experience with a child at a Title 1 school EOTP that gets little love on this board has included one child with behavioral problems who comes from a middle class home and not ever seeing/hearing kindergartners swearing and assaulting each other. I have literally never seen that. My child has never reported that. She said that one time, a girl she knows said a bad word and that all the other kids were shocked by it and told her that was not appropriate.

DD is in first grade at this school. We haven't seen any of the things you witnessed in the whole time we've been there. I'm really sorry for what you've seen - mostly for the children experiencing those things because I care more about them than I do about you - but don't sit here and pretend that the problem is "liberal" parents who don't care about their own children.[/quote]

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