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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]For every egregious police act, can we also post every single good police act that occurred at that very same moment in time across our fifty states? Just for proportionality? I'm guessing if this is criminal--it's on video, will be investigated, and justice will be done. Will all the good police who were doing good work at the same time get commendations? Doubtful.[/quote]

But police are supposed to do good things and act appropriately. It shouldn't be newsworthy. [/quote]

+1 . I've never seen such a profession where people constantly feel the need to preface apologies for costly and lousy behavior with ' there are good cops out there' , 'not at all cops are bad' and blah blah . Fucking disgusting [/quote]

Well, let's see. As a teacher, I can fully sympathize. We don't need medals in our field (sometimes body armor -but that's a different story), but I would like the attacks from the public to stop.

the problem?  We've lost our need to "police" ourselves - no self-responsibility -  and expect public servants to step in.  But when a public servant makes a mistake, it's a Salem Witch Hunt.  When Johnny comes to us hungry and dirty and we can't get him to read at grade level, it's our fault.

Police see repeat offenders and deal with dangerous situations on a daily basis.  MOST of them want to help society, as do teachers.  But if you're assigned a beat that's not exactly Mayberry, that beat will harden you and shape your views - sometimes in dangerous ways.

So yes, the public wants accountability, but it goes both ways.   Let's say school is trying hard to get a 9th grader to jump to three reading levels and gives  her a special class for support, a reading specialist, and extra time spent with teachers at lunch and after school.  great, right?  But when she goes home, there's no food on the table and she faces abuse each night.  We can call CPS and involve the school psychologist, but  we CANNOT undo the damage done at home.  She cannot learn when she's emotionally and physically at risk.

Imagine how that affects the teachers emotionally and mentally.  And then, multiply that 1 by 50 - b/c in schools where most kids live in poverty, MOST will be reading below grade level.

Yes, we are in it to help, but when societal ills are crammed down our throats, we are helpless.  So we either burn out and leave (Look at the attrition rate of new teachers.) or look for "greener pastures."

Put a cop in a beat where all s/he sees are the worst case scenarios day after day, and what do you expect?

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So you are ok with what happened in this video?  Keep being ok with it because all that dies it put innocent cops in danger of vigilantes.  There is no win for anyone when people defend and excuse actions like this.  Even the most jaded cop should be able to get this situation right.[/quote]

If you're going to respond, then back up your claims.

First of all, I said NOTHING about supporting this man's behavior.  It's tragic. I've worked in schools with school community-based programs.  So I know how sad and difficult it is to work with children who can barely speak or walk. WHERE did I say that I supported what occurred?

I did, however, chime in about root causes. But apparently, you're not sharp enough to understand that certain careers are highly stressful and that SITUATIONS shape us.

A JADED cop will not always make the right decisions. That's my point.  You're so free to share your feelings, aren't you?  Well then, please tell me you're a public employee - a social worker or a psychologist working for a health center or a pupil personnel worker.

But unless you're in a burnout field, I think this conversation needs to end.  You just don't get it, and you won't EVER get it either.[/quote]

Many of the officers implicated in unjustified shootings were relatively new to the job, not jaded after many years of nightly shoot-outs or whatever you are imagining.  I am a np and do work in a "burn-out field."[/quote]

Imagining?  Honey, if that's the case, then share the statistics.  I'm on board.  And to that I'd say the same thing - Where are the proactive measures to ensure that people entering the police force aren't harboring racist beliefs?   And how are new recruits being trained and MENTORED?

So you didn't respond fully to my post.  What are the root causes of their behavior?

I have a good friend who did his time as a marine.  He joined the police force but was REQUIRED to go through retraining b/c he was too hardened from what he experienced abroad.  Guess what?  He's the best cop I know. He focuses on community outreach and is very objective when these ugly matters arise.

So find me the statistics first in order to support your point,  but keep in mind that your point doesn't necessarily refute my claim either, as I will always bring it back to the root cause.[/quote]

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