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[quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous]How about being nervous for everything? Marathon? Workplace? Gay nightclub? Airport transit? Foreign business? Police couple in front of child at home? How about this administration get back in the business of a war on terror? [/quote] ISIS's strategy is to make people be nervous for everything. Conservatives' strategy is the same. It is exceedingly strange that this poster believes that an attack in Bengladesh could have been stopped by Obama. [/quote] This administrations articulated vision of defeating world wide terror - whether here or in Bangladesh - is to fight it with peace, love and understanding, drone or air strikes (more than Bush) , and a few troops in Iraq/Syria that it wont acknowledge as being in combat. It seems completely incoherent to me.[/quote] Do you know what sounds incoherent to me? Someone blaming Obama for an attack in Bangladesh. The layers of ignorance required to arrive at such a conclusion are simply astounding. It is really remarkable to consider what brain functions are required to read about an attack in Bangladesh and then immediately leap to blaming Obama. Let's hope that nobody's July 4th cookouts get rained on -- Obama will be blamed for that as well. [/quote] Can you explain why Bangladesh, where we have huge garment trade, where bloggers trying to speak freely and stabbed to death in the street, with its location as another potential place for an extremist group to take root, does not "matter"? Do you just see it as third world flood ridden back water where this is par for the course? In the fight against pernicious and destabilizing terror, we can at least name and track the threat and have a coordinated plan to push back against it--whether in South Asia or in North Africa. Do you wait until the countries are wracked by Civil War (Syria, Yemen) to pay attention? Our own general acknowledged to Congress that he is aware of no overarching plan to deal with extremism in North Africa. Not to have a plan? Sad.[/quote] Can you please show where I said that Bangladesh "does not 'matter'"? You put "matter" in quotes so obviously I must have said, but where? Or, maybe you are simply delusional? Again, the ignorance of your posts is astounding. Do you really believe that the US should have an "overarching plan to deal with extremism in North Africa"? Can you also see Russia from your house? Because North Africa consists of a number of countries that are home to various types of extremism. The US military is currently deployed in the majority of North African countries. You need individual plans for each of those deployments and additional plans for addressing various threats. The idea that you can develop one single plan is the hight of idiocy such as is so often demonstrated by those who have no idea of the complexity of the world. It is people like you who lead us to invade Iraq because of an attack launched from Germany, mainly carried out by Saudis, led by a group based in Afghanistan, while repeatedly telling us Iran is the real threat. Your plan is literally to bomb them all and let God sort them out. That's as nuanced as you are capable of thinking. As for extremism in Bangladesh, that is for the government of Bangladesh to sort out. The US has its hands full just trying to look after itself. [/quote] Yes, I do think we should have an overarching plan. We have military around the world actively fighting Isis- including in Iraq, Syria, and "africom" - we should have a plan that deploys not just military, but dept. Of state, Cia etc. This administrations vocalized plan has been to call Isis a JV organization. His only military plan (not mine) is to bomb them. Its completely incoherent. Hows it working out?[/quote] You are purposefully misrepresenting the administration's plans. Normally, lying is chosen as a preferred tactic when the truth is unhelpful. So, we can draw our own conclusions about the soundness of your position from that. ISIS, like the countries of North Africa, is quite a bit more complex than you seem to understand. You would do well to spend some of your energy reading and learning rather than criticizing something about which you know so little. Also, nice movement of the goal posts from "extremism" to "ISIS". But, to the point, the US has a plan for combatting ISIS in Libya. It is not a plan that I support, but it is a plan. Do you know what it is? The US is doing far more than "bombing" ISIS in Iraq. Those actions are not necessarily ones that I support, but do you know what they are? The US has a plan for combatting ISIS in Syria that goes well beyond "bombing". It is a plan which I have no hesitancy in opposing, but it is a plan. Do you know anything about it? The Obama administration has more sophisticated plans than you seem to be aware. If you understand the ideological framework leading to those plans, they are even somewhat coherent. If, like me, you do not adhere to that ideological framework, the plans necessarily are faulty. Of course, it is like that any currently realistic alternatives to the Obama administration would have even worse plans from my point of view. So, I should probably take what I can get. You, on the other hand, should not spout misinformation. [/quote]
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