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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Do any of you women think it's difficult to be with a conservative husband since so many of their issues align against women's rights? How can you respect a man who thinks Trump should be president when he so clearly hates women? How is that okay in your husband's eyes?[/quote]

+1  Was thinking the same thing[/quote]

I honestly think even having to ask this is a reflection of how segregated our culture now is politically. I really, really hate Trump but it's hard to spend a meaningful amount of time with a Trump supporter without realizing that they are also human beings too with positives and negatives and not weird cartoon characters.[/quote]

The same thing could be said about slave merchants , segregationists , white supremacists , nazis, fascists and jihadist sympathizes [/quote]

1. If you think a meaningful percentage of Trump supporters are the moral equivalent of nazis, it's evidence you need to do a better job of understanding where other people are coming from;

2. I do in fact think we should endeavor to understand where jihadist sympathizes are coming from. In fact, my single largest problem with Trump is that his horseshit Anti-Muslim comments are excellent propaganda to create more jihadist sympathizers. Trump's biggest evil is that he promotes hatred over understanding. Doing exactly the same thing towards Trumo supporters means you are stopping to Trump's level, not being superior to him.[/quote]

1. I'm not sure what your definition of meaningful is .Plenty of articles have been written and polls have confirmed that Trump's casual racism and muscular nativism are the two major factors that handed him the nomination . 20% of his supporters for instance don't agree with the emancipation proclamation act.Go figure. I know exactly where his supporters are coming from . They come from these places called paranoia, bigotry,xenophobia and racial angst  . Seems to me like you're the one whose head is buried so deep in the sand , you may never see the light of the day . The idea that people who support Trump do not pose an existential threat to this country amounts to naïveté of apocalyptic proportions. Evil acts and ideologues have been able to advance because of myopic individuals like yourself who refuse to see shit for what it is and draw the appropriate conclusions . Perhaps you're an undercover supporter. Unlike you, some of us have drawn the line and picked our side and it's not the spray tan, American version of a fascist we're on. This is a man who can't even gather a unanimous consensus amongst his fellow republicans , but here you are defending the indefensible or clamoring for understanding. There's a significant portion of white america that's deeply racist and he's their newfound hero.

2.Im a die hard liberal and when it comes to jihadistsabd domestic terrorists ( Dylan Roof and co.)again your naïveté is on full display . They're extremists who want the world to live like it's the dark ages. No amount of understanding where they're coming from will change that . Bigotry needs no excuse to perpetuate itself [/quote]

You're not a die hard liberal because nothing you are actually saying is consistent with liberal or progressive values. You're someone motivated by the same sense of hate and lack of understanding as the percentage of trump supporters you are criticizing. You just happened to end up on the extreme left instead of the extreme right. The political spectrum is less of a line than a horseshoe and you are a lot more similar to the worst trump supporters than you care to realize.[/quote]

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