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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Here are the offiical statistics on refusal rates for B-1 (tourist) visas by country:
https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/Statistics/Non-Immigrant-Statistics/RefusalRates/FY15.pdf
Afghanistan is already at 61  % refusal rate.

I had a friend who worked in a US embassy approving visas. Most rejections are not for terrorism, but because there is belief the person intends to overstay their visa and/or work, which aren't allowed for this type of visa. So if you can't show strong ties back to your home country (property ownership, family, etc) you may be rejected. I also know a few people who were rejected (who happened to be white and not Muslim.. just because this was in Eastern Europe) -- typically people in their 20s with no strong ties to their home country.[/quote]

This goes to my prior point - we already ban people from coming without any regulation or law directing the state department to do so. So arguably, Trump could direct the state department to make the refusal rate 100% for countries x,y, and z. Of course, this would not be a ban on Muslims but rather on all persons from those countries.[/quote]

Why are you acting so dense. The PP pointed the reason - visitor visa is for visiting and immigrating. So, unless the visitor shows enough evidence to go back to the country of citizenship he is denied. Visa decision are many times reciprocative and affects international relations. It is not so simple to just banning citizens of a country without reason. Yes, a dictator can certainly do that. But hopefully you do not plan to elect Trump to be the dictator of US. Another aspect is a country who does not have a world leadership position can be unfair and many would not worry. However if US unilaterally bans citizens of some countries, it would create serious international relationship issues for us. In addition, how would that eliminate the perceived threat of Islamic radicalism? Muslims are citizens of Afghanistan and also citizens of Canada! Som terrorism around the world are perpetrated by British Muslims.  Basically Trump is pointing his focus on the wrong target because he does not understand the complexity of this issue. Religion is not the problem, Hate is.  Hate has no religion except may be Evil. No one is being apologetic. Trump and his supporters are blowing this incident disproportionately calling it Islamic Terrorism, to divert the attention from the real issue - semi automatic weapon in the hand of hateful angry person![/quote]

I am not trying to argue in favor of any ban. So many people asked how it could happen, and so as you said, Trump could effectuate a complete ban on a country if he chooses. If he were president. Unless there is some law against that which I am unaware of.[/quote]

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