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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]That's pretty funny. Mine had top grades at Holton and the college counselor wanted her to go to "Villa NoWhere"...i.e. Villonova. She ended up at top Ivy. Your kid must be a legacy or you must give a lot of money to Holton.

[quote=Anonymous]My daughter is a B+ student at Holton with good scores and her counselor (supported by Naviance) seems to indicate she could get into a lot of great places, especially if she applies ED.  She's looking at places like Bowdoin, Kenyon, Grinnell (Bowdoin would have to be ED) and counselor says she has a good shot at all.  As people have said, there is a wide range of "B" but she has mostly A- or B+ in her classes and several honors/AP.  She's not interested in Ivy League or most of the top schools but I'm confident she will get into several good schools given her background and the reputation of Holton. [/quote][/quote]

Interesting. I think that college counselors at independent schools have a policy of setting very low expectations at the first meeting with parents --- in our case the first kid, who ended up at an Ivy, was being sold on a small third rate college in Florida, and the second kid, who ended up in a top ten school, was asked to look at a non-flagship Southern state school.  I think that they do this to deflect blame in case of mishaps, but also to force parents and kids to focus on safeties and match schools. It is very easy to get caught up thinking about far reaches and not enough time planning out the full list. In my experience, once they see that a family has been sufficiently stunned, they become much more helpful and on-point.[/quote]

This was our experience, except that we simply ignored their advice.  Kids were accepted at schools the counselors said would be impossible.  By the third time around it was just so tiresome to play this game.  Why do they assume that parents are completely clueless and want to force their kids to apply to schools where they'd be unhappy?  Wouldn't it be more efficient to try to work cooperatively with parents?        [/quote]

Agree on this. On the  second child  and they are again setting bar pretty low. Okay we get it nothing's a given and safeties are important but geez...[/quote]

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