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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Stanford. Her average peer at Stanford will be overwhelmingly of higher academic caliber than her average peer at UMBC. Also, the resources at Stanford are simply in a different league altogether--the two schools aren't even in a comparable cohort of schools.

-Professor at research u.[/quote]

Another prof here.
Unless you or your daughter are somehow concerned she couldn't cut it at stanford, it's worth it.  She'd be exposed to a completely different, really special peer group at Stanford that would be her network starting out and later on.    And the standards she be held to would be really extreme.

I have had many PhD students, and honestly my experience is that [b]middle of the road students from places like Stanford often outpace the 4.0 students from places like UMBC. [/b] I don't think it's because the stanford students are necessarily more gifted, but that they learned something good at these places.

I agree that it's not a guaranteed ticket to greatness, and UMBC is in no way a ticket to something other than greatness.  But you're definitely tilting the odds in making this choice.  At least from the perspective of a researcher.  Iv'e worked in industry too and I think the needs are a little bit more different.  But if you daughter wants to be a biology major (did I read that?)  then she wants to do research (or medicine, which will be similar).  Stanford will be worth it.
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Yet research shows the exact opposite. A top student at UMD outpaces a middle student from an Ivy.

Funny how 1 persons perception is so inaccurate, I suspect that is why eyewitness accounts are so inaccurate.[/quote]

Not all UMD's are the same.  UMBC is very different than College Park.

For medicine, I care where my doctors go to school.  If I had a choice between Stanford and UMBC, I'd choose the Stanford doctor.  In many professions, it doesn't matter where you go to school but for medicine it does.[/quote]

I would take a self confident UMBC doctor to a self defeated Stanford doctor any day of the week.  Truthfully I don't choose a doctor by where they attended school but where they practice, how much research they have published and personal recommendations... When it matters... Meaning not for a cold but for cancer.

[b]I was just pointing out your point has been disproven in research.[/b]... And at the time of the research umCP was ranked about the same as UMBC is today.

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I don't know that that is true.  No one has broken down where you went to college vs. success in x profession, just lifetime earnings.  Being a successful PhD student is not related to long term earnings.[/quote]

The measurement was by published articles. Also they follow drop out rates from programs. A top student at UMD is more successful than everybody in IVY minus the top 5 percent because of perceived success... aka confidence is shaken when a top student falls to the middle. It's how ivys justify athletes, they don't mind being on the bottom/middle. No self confidence problem there.[/quote]

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